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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

How do you suggest we test? First of all, dogs don't necessarily hate kennels, and kennels can be humane. Also, if a food isn't giving a dog proper nourishment, it's much better that they would be learned in a clinical environment where they are constantly checking blood samples and doing tests. At home you might not learn that the dog is severely malnourished until it's too late. I would hope the labs would be filled with dog lovers who ensure that dogs are being treated appropriately. I think we all should be against inhumane experiments, but not all experiments are inhumane. If the lab doesn’t test, you are the experimenter.

Originally Posted by Ellie May

I don't like that animals have to be tested on just as much as the next person (in fact, I hate animal cruelty and that is why I became a vegetarian). However, my dogs aren't going to be tested on (this is why I try to stay away from new drugs for them too). Also, the same does go for drugs. They are tried on research animals before your dogs. So you would really rather new drugs be tried on your dogs before tested on animals in a lab setting? If a food is so safe, then it should not pose risk in a clinical trial. And no kennels aren't always fun, but some companies do seem to be trying hard to treat their animals right. One company (forget which one) even has an agility course for their pups (which is much more than my dogs have). No, I'm not in favor of hurting animals by testing, but yes, I think most people on YT would admit that they would rather it be a dog bred for research instead of their own. Some do in-house testing with employees' dogs, but a lot of that is limited to palatability. And some (RC being one) do a lot with breeders that may be more extensive. I'd just hope some kind of trial is being done to show me that a food is digestible enough and isn't going to make my dog's bloodwork crazy if eating it for a few months. That's far better than just hoping the company knows what they are doing because a lot of them simply don't.

https://secure.peta.org/site/Advocac...rAction&id=611

Please watch this video. Seriously...if you think any kind of animal research is dealt with in a humane way by people who supposedly love animals....I don't know what to say. There is no way that this could be justified in any way!!
Never!! Even if this happened years ago this research facility still exists and I am sure they have not stopped what they are doing.

Originally Posted by Ringo1

Yeah; I'm not big on animal testing.

We don't breed and cage humans for doctor's to practice on an learn their craft; why should we do it with animals? Of course, they do learn on animals as well.

Surely, there is another way Vets can learn to practice their trade or a food company can test their food - without caging some poor animal for all it's life.

I hope I don't come back in my next life as any kind of animal! I don't want to be starved; malnourished; cooked; skinned; or killed in some mass production meat facility.