[Belle Noir]

I didn't buy Pixie. My boyfriend did.
He got tired of me crying about missing my dogs and how having a dog would help one of my daughters with her behavioral issues as an emotional support animal and said I'm going to get you a puppy. I honestly didn't believe he would do it, but somehow he did.

HE didn't know any better, the guy said he'd bred dogs for 13 years, and the puppies were raised in the house.. You know, the usual shpeel... And my boyfriend didn't know, he's not a dog person.
He caught the save the puppies from Ghana scam, but this guy snookered him, especially since one of his co-workers claimed she had bought a puppy from him.. That was male, and then miraculously had a sex change a month later when he asked about her puppy.

Until I saw all her paperwork, I didn't know she was a puppymill product. What convinces me of that is that this guy lives in MD, but her vet check papers are for a vet in Ohio... My boyfriend looked over her paperwork and didn't catch that. I actually didn't catch it at first, just scanned it to see if the shots were to date, and if there were any problems I should look for. I didn't see anything, the shots were to date, I put the vet papers away until later. And later is when it was caught.

It was set for my boyfriend to see the guy in his home, and check out the parents and the premises and the guy changed his mind at the last minute saying oh, you could try to rob me and steal my puppies, and met my boyfriend some where neutral.
Again, WE would have known better, but he didn't, and he didn't want my help, he wanted to do this thing for me and my daughters and we have been dog hungry for so long, that I didn't care. I know that is selfish of me, but I didn't.

I honestly didn't think he would actually get the puppy until he told me he had her. And by then all the hindsight of I should have <___> is of no consequences, because what is gone and past is gone and past.

That is why I have said from the BEGINNING the guy my boyfriend bought her from was her broker, not her breeder.

Also, and I have said this before. I have not shown AKC. The fact is, I wanted a "practice" dog. One to learn how to show AKC on, to get my foot in the door, so to speak.
But also.. I didn't want to have to deal with co-ownerships and sterilization contracts and such like, just to be able to show a dog that I know isn't show quality.

My boyfriend wanted to do something for me to make me happy. I admit to the selfishness of allowing him to do this for me. I will admit to the dismay of realizing that my selfishness put money in the hands of a puppy mill broker.
I wish it wasn't so, I wish she WAS the product of someone that just bred a few litters a year from their home. But she's not, and I am not ashamed of allowing my boyfriend to buy me a puppy from someone that wasn't a code of ethics breeder, nor am I ashamed of the fact that she very likely came from a puppy mill.

I have found, (granted AFTER the fact) two wonderful people that have taken the time to talk to me about my dog, and who I can go to with questions. But I don't fool myself. The time spent on someone THINKING about getting a dog is usually spent trying to persuade people NOT to get a dog. MOST breeders are like that, tell you all the bad news first, so that only the ones with the most heart sticks in there, still determined. I know that, I did it all the time, I STILL do it. I didn't need anyone telling me all the "cons" of a yorkie, I already knew them.
However, once someone does actually have a dog, the time spent talking to someone knowledgeable in a breed is spent on the dog, on the breed. Again, this is by my personal knowledge and observations.

So far, Pixie has been the picture of health, I lucked up because conformationally, she isn't too bad. Though we would have shown if she were the most hideous Yorkie to have the misfortune of being whelped, just for the fun of it.
And I am aware of the potential issues in the breed. I am also prepared financially to handle them should they arise.

As for me asking the question I asked. Had I found the information ANYWHERE, I would not have needed to ask it. Simply saying off color yorkies have been born, are being born, and will continue to be born, isn't answering my question.
I know they have.
But that still didn't answer my question about the genetic make up of these dogs. ALL any place that brought up the off colored dogs said were these colors happen as a rarity, sell as pets, and never repeat the breeding.
That is pretty much what I found here, though I accept that there is a thread somewhere that discusses the golden in depth. I just haven't found it.

I will also note, I take exception to the word "claims" with it's implication that I am lying.
I have found not one, not two, not three, but no less than FIVE COE breeders in my area, one of them a highly noted personage in the breed.
I have been in PERSONAL face to face contact with two of them, and in phone contact with the third.
I have even SAID this.
THESE are the people I go to with my conformation questions. They would know. And they are the ones I go to with my showing questions. They are the ones that are teaching me how to properly stack Pixie and train her for showing.
Am I ONLY to utilize the knowledge of these people to further my learning goals?
And YES I HAVE asked them about the genetics of the gold. And the answer?
They're born, it happens, sell them as pets and never repeat the breeding.
They ARE the ones I go to about showing. Nowhere on this forum have I asked anything about showing, and you know what, even WITH these two people kindly helping me in person, and one on the phone, why should I NOT ask my showing questions here?

I don't think anywhere I have said is the only things I am looking for on this site. I DO believe I have said many times I am interested in EVERYTHING and ANYTHING Yorkie.

Let me say it again, since so many people have missed it.
I am NOT interested in breeding Yorkies. Not now, and I have no intentions in the future. Wanting to know about the genetics of the Yorkie does NOT mean I want to breed them, it ONLY means I want to know about the genetics, especially as I have said several times I am NOT interested in breeding them.

I breed betta fish..
Do you know what is involved with raising ONE spawn of betta fish?
Let me remind you, it's not 3-6 puppies, is up to TWO HUNDRED OR MORE fry you will have to separate into their own tanks, feed, and do massive daily water changes on for a MINIMUM of 2.5 months before they are saleable, or showable.
Oh, also, they only eat live food for the first MONTH of their lives.
That is 3-4 hatch set ups for brine shrimp a day per spawn.
Do you know what is involved with hatching brine shrimp?
Lots of water and lots of salt, or you can possibly use baking soda, and that's it.. But then you have to watch for shells when you drain the bbs from the cysts.. Unless of course you decap them... which involves bleach, and dechlor or vinegar which MIGHT cause of a release of chlorine gas if you're not careful and don't know what you're doing. And if you don't know what you're doing, you'll kill the eggs you're trying to decap.

And this is if you don't have a male that kills the female, or eats the eggs or eats the fry.. or a heater that cooks your grow out, or bigger babies eating little ones, or taking chunks from fins, or velvet, ich, swimbladder disorder..
AND let's take into account that of all the ones that make it to maturity, few of them will be show quality, and even fewer the color you needed an adult pair of that spawn to be to further your breeding goals.
Oh, and you don't want to breed your show quality fish if you're going to show them, because breeding usually involves a lot of ripped fins. And you don't want to show your brood stock more than twice, because all the bagging, shipping, tanking, carding, rebagging, and reshipping can stress your fish to where they die.
Not to mention that fish DO die at shows, fish ARE stolen at shows... So you take the chance on breeding your less than perfect specimens if you want to show the perfect ones, and HOPE the fish will still breed when you get it home, if it doesn't die or pick up some disease, OR you breed your perfect fish at risk of sacrificing your showing season.

So that's why you want to have more than one spawn going at the some time. Usually 2 or 3.
Did I mention upwards of TWO HUNDRED OR MORE fry per spawn?
No, I have NO time or interest in breeding anything other than my bettas.. they take up ALL my breeding time.

You DON'T get fish like this from your local petstore. These fish have pedigrees every bit as extensive as any high quality dog.