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Originally Posted by My lil friend I think that each puppy is different and what works for that particular puppy must be found. I have used the Alpha roll on only one dog ever,but it worked. We have a chi that was trying to attack our 70lb dog,good thing he is soooo patient. It was never done when the dog had been aggressive. We picked a certain time of the day when the house was quiet. I never let it last more than 60 seconds,usually much less and always with alot of quiet talking,praise and a very special treat followed that only he got. It took 3 days for him to calm down. This was my last resort after trying everything else and it worked. I did get bit a couple of times during this and just didn't react. I also spent ALOT of time loving on,cuddling,and speaking to him softly to praise him. I would take him to a seperate room and spend quiet times with him and only him. He is the first chi that I have ever owned and has turned out to be a wonderful,obedient little boy. My husband,that didn't want me to bring home a chi, says that he is a great dog. He is also my daughters very best friend and that is why we got him.
Again this method doesn't always work. Just keep trying to find what works best for your baby and you. Lots of love mixed in and you will see results. Like people puppies,some furbabies take a little longer to respond than others,they are truely each an individual. |
I disagree, if you were bitten while doing an Alpha Roll, then you were doing it wrong.
I really hate having to disagree, but it is so important not to AR a puppy, it messes more of them up than it straightens out. You were very lucky in three ways. If the dog could move enough to bite, then he could have hurt himself, and you could have been hurt worse, and it could very easily went bad and the dog end up being worse instead of better.
And if you understood the psychological damage this maneuver could do to a puppy, much less an older dog, you would not post that you did it in a puppy thread, as others whose pups are going through a normal growth stage of biting will want to try it, and it's use was never intended for correction of this type of behavior in a young dog.
I beg of anyone who owns a puppy and is considering doing this Alpha Roll, please do not do it. It is not worth the risk of psychological injury or physical injury you could inflict on your puppy.
I adopted a 2 year old female 2 years ago tomorrow, and I gently rolled her over during play about 4 months after she arrived, just to give her a belly rub. She started to go catatonic... eyes rolled back in her head, front legs stretching out almost as if she was going to have a seizure, combined with a total loss of orientation.
I was stunned and stood there staring at her for a few seconds, trying to figure out what was going on with her, and quickly bc it appeared that her whole body was shutting down, possibly going into shock, and from there she could very well have died!
I grabbed her and righted her, and held on until she regained her balance, and gently talked to her until she became coherent again.
So no more belly rubs until she asked for them, which she does do now, on her own, she'll flip over on her back and look at me, or some days just on her side. I do not push the issue with this dog, and won't ever again. Thank God I was a vet tech for 20+ years, and I could quickly recognize the signs of what she was doing, and realized, in time, she was in trouble, and was able to reverse it.
The Alpha Roll, and any form of it, is very dangerous to do to a dog, especially a puppy.
If anyone is having trouble with a young or old puppy biting, please post a thread about it, there are many people here willing to help you, with proven, successful methods. Never roll your puppy. Ask first...