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Old 04-05-2005, 08:24 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by tink-n-kody
Which reminds me of an ad that was on here previously of a woman that had lost her three puppies she was trying to raise because their mother died, so many people responded by giving their sympathy and their regards, but nobody started asking her questions like why did your female die? what did you do to her? as one of you responded to my ad did any of the puppies in my dogs litter die? so does that make him a worthless dog because maybe one of his brothers or sisters may have died??
I can't believe you judge our posts, your question simply posed how much can I make to stud? You see your dog as $ signs without knowing breeding facts. You question why you were NOT warned about common disease you state you have a mentor she should have informed you of the most general facts and most common disease! Breeding 101!

You believe we breeders are in it for the money, I find that amusing.

First think about what a breeder pays for a quality bitch and stud average $1,500 to $2500 each. These animals required excellent health care, several health tests prior to breeding which amounts to several hundred dollars in vet bills (health certificate & Brucellosis test for the stud and bitch, is about $80 each, OFA and CERF testing $200.00 each, bile acid test to screen for liver shunt $60.00 each. Ovulation testing $50 each test, 2-6 of these done during the bitches heat cycle) bitch pre and post natal care and vet cost, puppy health cost (tail docking, dewclaws removed) vet exams, vaccinations, health certifications.

Then consider some breeders show their bitch before breeding which means you can not breed your bitch until she is titled (usually will take about 2-3 years) One doesnt make money showing an animal as a matter of fact it's expensive, hiring a handler, the training, paying handlers and your travel expenses, entry fees.

Your show bitch has now reached 3 years old and it's not advised to breed beyond 6-7 years of age. So a breed might have 3 years worth of breeding. You breed her next season (cycle is any where from 8 months to 14 months)
You may have 3 litters out of her entire breed and show career. Average litter is 4 babies (providing they all live).

Then consider the price of birth complications, more vet bills, perhaps a c-section $600 average (never to breed again..your investment has been lost) ecampsia $500 resulting in bottle raising her litter or even worse the death of your bitch (as simple as a sac or worse yet a dead puppy inside, there is no D and C to clear the system for animals like adults)

Breeding is an art (for the staving artist) you always strive to breed the best health and intentions but even the very best will suffer heath issues and heartache. Bottomline the love and passion of the breed out weighs the COSTS!

PS...know before your post about someone elses heartache!
tinkertoyyorkie : from her original post......

"Got a call last night. Our vet gave a woman my name about helping her feed her orphaned yorkie babies. The mother dog died as a result of a retained pup which was caught too late."

Tinkertoyyorkie had come to the rescue upon a vets request to help these orphaned babies, it wasnt her bitch who died and this sometimes unfortunately happens. Tinker happen to have a bitch that was nursing....She unselfishly offered and the outcome was heart break!

old adage Nice begets Nice!
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