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Originally Posted by mambolady  I said you were wrong about this poster being a phony because you all were talking about people coming on and posting one time to say Star was a good place. She came on and made her statement (doesn't matter what that statement was) because I told her what was being said and she felt she should say something. I didn't tell her to do it. I didn't force her to do it. She's an adult and did it on her own. You were wrong in that she wasn't put up to it by Star. If you read what she said carefully and instead of immediately just jumping to what was wrong with Star, she gave you what she saw and how she felt honestly. Do you really think she would have mentioned the bottle feeding puppies if she thought that was wrong? Think about it. Your reply was good info, your attitude was not good, it was mean and hurtful to a super nice person.
And I'm still waiting for someone to point out about the puppy parties. This really kills me in that you accuse people, anyone, of taking little tiny puppies to a party to make money off of it. Where does it say that? I have been looking at this site for months, as I said b/4 and have never read anything about a puppy party, yet your last post, this last post we are talking about, you bring it up as a current item.
Could it be that you saw a picture of a young dog with a birthday hat on it and assumed this was what you call a puppy party? Did the lady in the picture look like a kid? How did you all decide these people were holding puppy parties and making money? I really wish you would tell me. I told you, I was serious, if you provide proof of them being a puppy mill, or abusing puppies or animals, I live here. I would try to do something about it.
But I truly think you saw this picture and your imaginations ran wild when all it is is a lady sharing a picture of her dog she got from them on his first birthday and the cute fun she and her friends had. |
I'm not sure why you have the insistent need to defend this particular greeder. The puppy party had nothing to do with a picture, but rather a craigslist ad offering to rent pups for kids parties. I'm still doing a google search to try and find the original ad. If I find it, I will quite happily post it.
Now, for a little more proof, since you seem to think that you are owed a detailed explanation...
I wrote a post earlier about how they are using undersized dams to breed. I specifically mentioned two yorkies on their front page. One of those little pups was named Macie. With the help of a very good friend of mine who is in the process of searching for a yorkie, we obtained the following info (don't worry, Deanna is a lurker to this site and knows full well that everything about this is wrong!):
Hi Deanna Thank you for your email.
Little Macy is still available. She is out of a 3.5 lb. dam and a 2.5 lb. sire , has a sweet personality and just a gorgeous face. I have attached a copy of our health warranty to this email. Please call or email back when are ready to go forward with the adoption process or if you have any other questions. Thanks again, Gina & Ben Star Yorkie Kennel - Home of Teacup Puppies
And, if she had ordered her on Monday, she could have gotten free shipping!
The health guarantee is also so full of holes you could drive a truck through it. It guarantees against life threatening congenital defects for one year (but not things like LP, Luxating patellas, etc...) But then, only if you return the dog (at your expense) and take another dog in return. California law gives you the option of:
(1) Return your dog and receive a refund of the purchase price, plus sales tax, and receive reimbursement for reasonable veterinarian fees up to the cost of the dog plus sales tax.
(2) Return your dog and receive a dog of your choice of equivalent value, providing a replacement dog is available, and receive reimbursement for reasonable veterinarian fees up to the cost of the dog, plus sales tax.
(3) Keep the dog and receive reimbursement for reasonable veterinarian fees up to 150 percent of the original purchase price of the dog plus sales tax on the original purchase price of the dog.
Interestingly, they DO include a copy of the Lemon Laws, yet their contract runs contradictory to the laws.
Their "health guarantee" does include viral illnesses for 15 days- Good if you have a case of Parvo show up in that time. But it specifically states it will not cover parasites- Bad, what about Giarrdia?
They say in line 6: There will be NO refund under any circumstances to exclude cases covered in section 2 (that's the one about life threatening congenital defects). Again, that's contrary to California Law. A pup can be declared unfit for sale in circumstances other than life threatening congenital conditions.
It also says in line 4 "the seller will not be responsible for any veterinarian bills or medical supplies the buyer may incur to said puppy to exclude cases covered by section 2"- again, not in agreement with California Law.
Line 5 says "Seller's sole liability on above points shall be limited, at seller opinion, to replacement with a puppy of equal value. In no event will seller be liable for any further expense incurred by buyer."- again, contrary to California law.
These people are just so wrong on so many levels, it's unbelievable.
Now, I'm done with this thread. If anyone wants to keep defending their practices, that's up to them. There are enough red flags that have been pointed out that anyone who knowingly walks in there and buys a dog from them deserves what they get.
ETA: Thank you Deanna, for your help with this. You are on the right track to finding a fantastic dog from a reputable breeder. Now quit lurking and join this site officially already!