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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama I will tell you why I am not wrong about the poster's statements. If she got a healthy pup, then she needs to consider herself exceedingly lucky. Nothing about the description of the place she saw the pup says anything except petstore/puppy mill.
How clean a place is does not guarantee a good breeder. It's important, but not the be all and end all.
Next comes the comment about the new born dogs being bottle fed. Unless the health of the mother is at stake, there is no reason for them to be doing that. It's absolutely not in the best interest of the pups. All pups should be with their mother for the first months of life. Not only does she provide nourishment, she provides essential social skills in their development. For larger dogs, they should be with mom a minimum of 8 weeks. Toy breeds should be with them at least 12.
Then, she said that the dam came from a Korean line. That again is another HUGE red flag. Korean dogs are puppy mill dogs. So the person here breeding them is doing nothing more than breeding puppy mill pups by extension.
The next thing she mentions is the price of the dogs. That one almost made me pee my pants with laughter. Price does NOT determine quality. And these dogs are proof positive of that. They are extremely off-standard. They are breeding really poor representatives of the breed.
Going back to the site it's self. They mix breeds. NO reputable breeders will breed mixes. Period. Reputable breeders strive to maintain the integrity of the breeds, not diluting them.
Look at the 2 yorkies on their front page right now. They are estimating the adult weights to be LESS THAN 3 POUNDS. That means, if they are correct, that they are breeding females who are far too small to be breeding safely. These extremely tiny dogs are prone to a myriad of health problems ON TOP OF the ones already endemic in the breed.
Then let’s look at the fact that they offer “puppy parties”. Holy cow! What reputable breeder allows pups to be out and about in the community before they are fully vaccinated? That’s a minimum of 18 weeks, but preferably 6 months if the rabies vaccine is held off as recommended for toys. That doesn't exactly scream "I've only got the best interest for the health of my dogs in mind."
Again, if this friend of yours got lucky and didn’t get a sick pup, then she should be thanking her lucky stars. But without a doubt, no matter how nicely you dress up the place and no matter how much someone charges, it’s still a front for a puppy mill and bad breeding practices. |
I said you were wrong about this poster being a phony because you all were talking about people coming on and posting one time to say Star was a good place. She came on and made her statement (doesn't matter what that statement was) because I told her what was being said and she felt she should say something. I didn't tell her to do it. I didn't force her to do it. She's an adult and did it on her own. You were wrong in that she wasn't put up to it by Star. If you read what she said carefully and instead of immediately just jumping to what was wrong with Star, she gave you what she saw and how she felt honestly. Do you really think she would have mentioned the bottle feeding puppies if she thought that was wrong? Think about it. Your reply was good info, your attitude was not good, it was mean and hurtful to a super nice person.
And I'm still waiting for someone to point out about the puppy parties. This really kills me in that you accuse people, anyone, of taking little tiny puppies to a party to make money off of it.
Where does it say that? I have been looking at this site for months, as I said b/4 and have never read anything about a puppy party, yet your last post, this last post we are talking about, you bring it up as a current item.
Could it be that you saw a picture of a young dog with a birthday hat on it and assumed this was what you call a puppy party? Did the lady in the picture look like a kid? How did you all decide these people were holding puppy parties and making money? I really wish you would tell me. I told you, I was serious, if you provide proof of them being a puppy mill, or abusing puppies or animals, I live here. I would try to do something about it.
But I truly think you saw this picture and your imaginations ran wild when all it is is a lady sharing a picture of her dog she got from them on his first birthday and the cute fun she and her friends had.