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Old 01-03-2011, 06:04 PM   #190
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose View Post
First, I understand your confusion....but you can not breed "out of standard" to standard if know your lines...might get away with it once in awhile, but cream rises to the top.
AND...what "out of standard fault are we talking about? A bitch that runs too light or a poorly structured bitch, back and front...BIG difference. No Yorkie is perfect, there will always be faults...and you breed to correct these faults from Yorkies with a long line of winners behind them and ones with easier to corrected faults..color is very easy to correct..structure is not...try to reduce the ear size on a Yorkie with huge easty/westy ears and you will grow old doing so...remove that Yorkie from your program...remove bad bites, poor temperament...but if the eye is a bit too round or too big, the tail set is a bit low, pigment could be darker, muzzle a touch too short or long..IMO it would be a mistake to remove these dogs...breed to a terrific stud known to correct these problems.

I do not know who told you that a good breeder only breeds every couple of years...this is simply not true. It may take 4 litters in one year to produce the 2 or 3 champions a breeder will want to show for the next 2 yrs...I have a friend with a litter from a super breeding...she has 3 small girls..one might make 5 pounds, but 2 will stay under 4...she is getting ready to breed another litter in hopes of a male to show...if she is smart I think she should go for two more this year to ensure several potentials..that is what most do...as I recall Parkside finished 10 one year...how many litters do you think that took?..and is it wrong to produce champions to ensure the continuance of the breed..I do not think so...and where do nice pets come from...I just wish the good breeders could supply enough to put the miller out of business.
This is helpful in increasing my understanding, thank you .

(some of the show breeders who are only breeding every couple of years have mentioned this for quite a few years, and I think (?) even on this thread. It's not that I'm opposed to this, to the contrary . It's just that the incongruity btwn doing that (which I prefer much more, for my own reasons) and breeding 10 litters a year was the motivation behind my original post...and behind my confusion..and concerns me, given my previous impression.)

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Ann there is no simple way as Mary said. But look up breeding co -efficients and charts that attempt to evaluate a potential breeding pair. There are a lot of variables into this "scientific" approach to selecting the sire/dam.

I don't know the threads you were referring to, in terms of "out" of standard and don't breed advice. But I will merely put out there is out of standard and really out of standard.

Let's say for eg we have a new member called Hopeful. She asks if she should breed her bitch. She supplies sideline, front, and rear pics of her hopeful She says that her bitch has been ddx'd with LP 1 in one knee. Oh and also she is 9 lbs.

So we look at the pics, we see a coat color very light, a head that is coarse, a front that is narrow, with a rear that is wide, and what looks like a dip in the topline.

So the advice would conceivably be; your bitch is off standard, please don't breed her
Helpful as well, thank you!
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