[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by Raymond's Mom

I will answer and my view point is from one who is not in favor of the parti color movement.
How they ever showed up in the breed is a question that can never be answered. But the fact is that they're here and people are breeding them because they want to be first, to try to develop something new. There are white german shepherds, parti color poodles, white boxers and schnauzers, etc. and all are put in the category of mismarks and are not desired in the breed. That's how most feel about parti colored yorkies. They cost so much because there truly is a "sucker born every minute". They cannot be shown in AKC conformation shows. The parti color yorkie and off color yorkie is a DQ in this breed.

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Originally Posted by FlDebra

NO ONE CALLED PARTI-OWNERS SUCKERS!

I am sorry if those really are your feelings and they are hurt. I can't see that anyone insulted your dog or you. You didn't pay over $6,000 for your dog did you? That was what someone's "sucker born every minute" comment referred to -- not just buying a parti but paying HUGE SUMS OF MONEY for them. I think it is ridiculous for some of the standard yorkie breeders to ask that sort of money for theirs too!

Maybe you don't see it as "playing a card," but it just seems like everytime we have a discussion about breeding off-standard dogs (of any standard -- size, shape, color) someone tries to insinuate -- or as you said in your case you actually meant it -- that those who believe the breeding of off-standard dogs is wrong, somehow have something against the offspring themselves! Nothing could be further from the truth. Many who are against the breeding of mixes/off-colors/out of standard sizes ect. actually have a dog in one of those categories that they love very much but NEVER intend to purposely breed for. Like I mentioned before -- I loved my curly haired yorkie. She was a great pet, sweet and lovable. But she was not to standard and I had her spayed. I believe that is what all non-standard dog owners should do. It is not my say what they do with their dogs, though, and many choose not to spay & neuter the dogs that do not meet color, size, structure, color placement, or even temperment. They just don't care if they pass on the off-standard traits to future generations. I can speak up about my opinion, but they will still do what they want. When they do, I will have NOTHING against the dogs themselves.

To reiterate -- the "sucker born every minute" comment was NOT about someone buying a parti -- it was about paying HUGE sums of money (the figure of $6,000 was mentioned) for them. It just seems like people want to pick out specific little lines, twist them and make them into some insult that was not meant. This is a tough enough subject to discuss as it is. I think personalizing and twisting comments into saying something never meant makes it EVEN HARDER. Just asking for a little temperance.

I think Ann has shown a great deal of temperance. The statement is offensive and so are your comments questioning her feelings or opinions. Just as you are entitled to yours...so she is.

Btw, won't be Ann who locks this thread.