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concretegurl · 12-16-2010, 07:13 PM

Once again I suggested someone try a Dog DNA test told them they are not 100% but they are fun and you freak out and post all about the contrary...going on posting a couple times a warning about them...one would have been enough...here's that one sentence I referred to
[QUOTE=FlDebra;3358398]
“I’ve heard of these breed ID testsbut had no experience with them myself,” Fyfe wrote. “My take on it is that they have no basis and are basically a scam because the DNA determinants of most phenotypic traits are as yet unknown.”
John Fyfe

Department: MMG, SCS
E-mail: fyfe@cvm.msu.edu

Associate Professor
BS Oregon State University 1981
DVM Washington-Oregon-Idaho Regional Program 1984
PhD University of Pennsylvania 1994
Clinical Interests: Inherited Disease
Research Interest: Comparative Medical Genetics
*He holds an administrative position and is noted for allowing others to do the research and discipline of such themselves his field consists of genetic mutations and not of actually gene therapy or genotype(ing)-or commonly known as DNA marker identification he has no experience in the field of quantitative genotyping.

Genetics research at MSU offers insight and hope | MSU Research
1. Genotype & Phenotype
phenotype is the constellation of observable traits; genotype is the genetic endowment of the individual
2. "The Canine Heritage Breed Test is one of the most innovative products I have seen in years. I am a huge proponent of adoption, so my four legged family comes from shelters and breed rescue groups. Finding out what breeds are in my dog's genetic makeup has not only satisfied my curiosity, but given me invaluable health and behavioral information."
-Eric Theis
3. MMI Genomics DNA Laboratory
MMIG is the primary DNA service provider for numerous canine registries around the world, including the American Kennel Club (AKC), United Kennel Club (UKC) and Professional Kennel Club (PKC). In 2001, while a business unit of Celera Genomics, the company that decoded the human genome, MMIG participated in the most advanced genomic research in the world — years ahead of other companies.
4.Dog DNA Test Review - New DNA Testing For Mixed Breed Dogs
5. you can call the company yourself and ask about their accuracy rate I believe it is 70%ish with hybrids and goes down from there based on the number of breeds...MMI Genomics
Toll-Free Line (800) DNA-DOGG
6 Although YES dog DNA tests have A LONG way to go still to be considered absolute or accurate to the point they are admissible in court-I believe some states do take a 70% accuracy rate but I'm too busy with finals to look it up right now (ironically for my law classes), but the point is it's a fun thing to do and please a DNA lineage test for about $100 bucks-what do you expect? It's not quite a scam or a pseudoscience it's just not a perfected science hense the companies advertise for the breeds they can identify and I only know the reliability of the company my vet reccomended...did you know court admissable paternity and maternity test average at 97% for at home tests and 99.9% for lab tests, when only 10 years ago they too were an average of about 78% accurate...I'll be pleased to see what dog DNA breed analysis can do in another 10 years, and I'm glad I paid for the service and have spent money that will go toward further research, ye that and I've a cute little breed analysis certificate with my Scoobers' pic hanging on my wall...

Let me know what they say when you call FIDebra...I'm goign to call them on Monday and double check I'd hope we'd get the same answer otherwise ye I'll start questioning my certificate

Although Scoobers passed the phenotype traits analysis and was deemed a Schnorkie (Snorkie/ miniature schnauzer/yorkie mix F1 hybrid)

12-16-2010, 07:13 PM	#39
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Once again I suggested someone try a Dog DNA test told them they are not 100% but they are fun and you freak out and post all about the contrary...going on posting a couple times a warning about them...one would have been enough...here's that one sentence I referred to [QUOTE=FlDebra;3358398] “I’ve heard of these breed ID testsbut had no experience with them myself,” Fyfe wrote. “My take on it is that they have no basis and are basically a scam because the DNA determinants of most phenotypic traits are as yet unknown.” John Fyfe Department: MMG, SCS E-mail: fyfe@cvm.msu.edu Associate Professor BS Oregon State University 1981 DVM Washington-Oregon-Idaho Regional Program 1984 PhD University of Pennsylvania 1994 Clinical Interests: Inherited Disease Research Interest: Comparative Medical Genetics He holds an administrative position and is noted for allowing others to do the research and discipline of such themselves his field consists of genetic mutations and not of actually gene therapy or genotype(ing)-or commonly known as DNA marker identification he has no experience in the field of quantitative genotyping. Genetics research at MSU offers insight and hope \| MSU Research 1. Genotype & Phenotype phenotype* is the constellation of observable traits; genotype is the genetic endowment of the individual 2. "The Canine Heritage Breed Test is one of the most innovative products I have seen in years. I am a huge proponent of adoption, so my four legged family comes from shelters and breed rescue groups. Finding out what breeds are in my dog's genetic makeup has not only satisfied my curiosity, but given me invaluable health and behavioral information." -Eric Theis 3. MMI Genomics DNA Laboratory MMIG is the primary DNA service provider for numerous canine registries around the world, including the American Kennel Club (AKC), United Kennel Club (UKC) and Professional Kennel Club (PKC). In 2001, while a business unit of Celera Genomics, the company that decoded the human genome, MMIG participated in the most advanced genomic research in the world — years ahead of other companies. 4.Dog DNA Test Review - New DNA Testing For Mixed Breed Dogs 5. you can call the company yourself and ask about their accuracy rate I believe it is 70%ish with hybrids and goes down from there based on the number of breeds...MMI Genomics Toll-Free Line (800) DNA-DOGG 6 Although YES dog DNA tests have A LONG way to go still to be considered absolute or accurate to the point they are admissible in court-I believe some states do take a 70% accuracy rate but I'm too busy with finals to look it up right now (ironically for my law classes), but the point is it's a fun thing to do and please a DNA lineage test for about $100 bucks-what do you expect? It's not quite a scam or a *pseudoscience* it's just not a perfected science hense the companies advertise for the breeds they can identify and I only know the reliability of the company my vet reccomended...did you know court admissable paternity and maternity test average at 97% for at home tests and 99.9% for lab tests, when only 10 years ago they too were an average of about 78% accurate...I'll be pleased to see what dog DNA breed analysis can do in another 10 years, and I'm glad I paid for the service and have spent money that will go toward further research, ye that and I've a cute little breed analysis certificate with my Scoobers' pic hanging on my wall... Let me know what they say when you call FIDebra...I'm goign to call them on Monday and double check I'd hope we'd get the same answer otherwise ye I'll start questioning my certificate Although Scoobers passed the phenotype traits analysis and was deemed a Schnorkie (Snorkie/ miniature schnauzer/yorkie mix F1 hybrid)