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Old 12-12-2010, 07:56 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by Mardelin View Post
I've yet to mention during a course of a conversation with a potential new family that my dogs come from a long line of Champions, or Champion Sired or Champion Dam. My emphasis is always on health, structure and temperament of the pup and working with new family to establish a relationship and provide the pup with the best possible home.

Whether a question of sematics or not, it is eduational information and the more information placed out there for newbies the better.

The term for is Champion Dam; Champion Grand Dam or Champion Great Grand Dam.

As far as the teacup term; it's one that I don't let pass easily. I've witnessed too many people pulled into that too. Yes, even here on YT, there are still members that believe that you pay more for a pup, the smaller it is. And a week doesn't go by that I don't receive calls from potential new pup owners telling me about a breeder that has a teacup and that they understand teacups go for more money.

Education is a person's best ammunition in helping people make knowledgable choices.
I kinda see where this is going. One post will say (essentially) that if a puppy doesn't come from "champion stock" it's not as good as one that doesn't (so new buyers look for that), the next will say the breeder shouldn't mention the bloodlines --- Seems like a person is damned if they do, damned if they don't. My whole point is new buyers should look at the pup they intend to buy and speak with the breeder, not concern themselves so much with all the "marketing wording" because it's really a "toe-may-toe"/ "tah-ma-toe" thing. Depending on one's locale.
Like I said, if someone asks about bloodlines, it just seems "easier" to say "champion bloodlines" and IF they want more details, then one can specify whether the pups are "champion-sired", etc The person's website that the original post discussion was basically accusing the person who stated on their website "CHAMPION BLOODLINES" was only using a "marketing ploy" - how could they - or anyone - know those weren't close relative champion lines without actually meeting the breeder, etc? AND, that it isn't right of anyone to disparage a breeder strictly on their choice of wording on their website. So you're right 'education' is important, as long as it's accurate.
Someone could say, "if champion lines are so important to the quality of a pup, then if you don't mention it, you must not breed quality dogs" --- see where I'm going?
No one can (intelligently) say that a puppy from a breeder is not quality based strictly on a website's brief introductory wording, it's wrong to do so, it is not education, it's misleading...it's just ignorant to make statements about a particular breeder without first hand knowledge.

Until my previous post I never mentioned the details of my pups' lines as I didn't think it was the priority, rather their exceptional good health, temperament, great conformation, and other details is what I also initially choose to talk about, but for those that bloodlines are important, I would initially choose to the words, "champion bloodlines" - the details of those lines?...here's their pedigrees, see for yourself.
The other person's post about the price determines the quality is also wrong. I seriously do want my pups to go to a good and loving home first. I've made the decision to sell them for less to help assure they will be sold while young and will more readily bond to their new owner. It isn't all about the money. I can't keep them all. But now I'm thinking of raising their prices so people don't "learn" from the education from these postings that somehow a pup selling for less than 1500/1000 couldn't possibly be healthy and of high quality. Why shouldn't someone be able to have one of my pups for under a $1000 and still receive a high quality puppy? I don't need to sell them for a high price "just because I could" --
I guess I just want true and accurate "education" out there, not picking other breeders apart when someone doesn't 'personally' know anything about them or their dogs. It's wrong, it's petty, it's so junior-high school. Sorry, when I hear someone say 'their choice of wording means their puppies aren't worth buying' I immediately reject their other "education" because simply put, they are wrong about that, thus possibly wrong about anything else they say. So for those who "truly" want to educate...just speak the truth...the truth they have "first hand" knowledge about. That's all I ask of those who "choose" to "educate".
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