[Ringo1]

I don't know your situation or prior threads; but if pad training does not work; have you considered outdoor training?

All of my dogs have done so much better with going outside as opposed to a pad.

Course, I have a fenced yard and that makes it a whole lot easier.

I will say that I practically have to throw Lucy out of the house; she never wants to go outside even when Ringo is out there. But, if I don't, and allow her to go too long without putting her out ~ she will have an accident. We just moved to a new house; I no longer work from home; and my 89 y/o father takes care of them during the day. She has regressed when she is no longer under my watchful eye.