I'm sorry dear I believe YOU started this thread asking for info off Biewer Terrier members, but now I see you did not want answers to your questions. Fact is YOU do not know what happened in Herr Biewers Kennels or for that matter Lipmans either. Members are allowed to post replies, even if they do not agree with your unfounded remarks. If this upsets you I suggest in future not to post threads on the Biewer on a YORKSHIRE Terrier Forum