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Originally Posted by Breezeaway  Questions need to be asked and answered by the Biewer Yorkshire a la pom pon clubs and the Biewer Terrier Club.
I welcome all comments.
Why were these tri puppies from standard colored yorkies registered as Yorkshire Terriers with KFT/ VDH
These dogs were registered in KFT/VDH
Schneeflöckchen von Friedheck, VDH/KFT 19362, geb. 20.01.1984
Diavoletto Bianco von Friedheck, VDH/KFT 20173
Grand Pom Pon von Friedheck, VDH/KFT 20366, geb. 27.08.1984
Schneeanemone von Friedheck, VDH/KFT 22039
Schneeprinz II von Friedheck, VDH/KFT 25/26928 geb. 27.08.1989
Schneezauber von Friedheck, geb. 10.02.1989 Ð
As you can see Schneezauber was born 10/02 1989 after the ACH was established yet he was registered KFT/VDH Yorkshire terrier.
Had the KFT thought these dogs were cross breds they NEVER would have registered them.
But yet these these puppies sired (and / or born of three-color Yorkshire Terriers have no registration from VDH / KFT) but you see the numbers, This is not ACH numbers because ACH uses as the first 2 digits the year they were born in the registration #
Schneerose von Friedheck, Friedheck-Nr.: 001
Schneewirbel von Friedheck, Friedheck-Nr.: 018
Schneeblume von Friedheck, Friedheck-Nr.: 031
Then you have these dogs registered in ACH
Schneewieselchen von Friedheck, ACH 871094, geb. 29.09.1986
Schneediavolo von Friedheck, ACH 881543, geb. 19.09.1987
Schneeball von Friedheck, ACH 882338
Schneeflocke von Friedheck, ACH 882423
Werner Biewer in the years 1984-1989, used all three options for registration of his three-colored Yorkshire terriers . Some litters he still has VDH / KFT registered, others the pedigree itself is written for and still others at ACH Association) registered.
There are a total of 52 dogs names in the pedigree database but few can be actually traced back to their ancestors. Why are these dogs unknown? It was the 80's and there is no reason to have blank pedigrees in the 80's.
What I want to know is have the Biewer Clubs researched this and what exactly are their findings? |
Deb,
These are excellent questions however, I don't think you're going to get alot of responces (IMO) as far as I know, there has been very little if any real research done by the Clubs in the US. The most knowledgeable person I know regarding pedigrees has been totally drained from all of the constant fighting and bickering and has chosen to withdraw herself from it altogether.. German breeders are afraid to speak with anyone any more because of the horrific turmoil created here in the states by a few select "ladies" (term used loosely) and the devastating effects their self serving agenda has had on the Biewers name. Most German breeders are staying clear of the controversy and who can blame them. If they become involved their names and reputations are made subject to lies and childish behaviors by these "Ladies" and it's hard to tell who they can trust.
Mrs. Biewer, as far as I can tell, knew very little about her husbands breedings.. she is old, vulnerable and has also been "used" to further personal agendas. A translator was hired to speak with Gunther and I personally was on the phone during these conversations... he stated without reservation that the Biewer was born of traditionally colored Yorkies.. if there was any 'mixing or crossing' of other breeds, it was done PRIOR to the dogs coming to the Biewers home in the creation of the Yorkie itself. He stated there were many breeds that went into the creation of the Yorkie, and the tri coloring most likely was from one of these founding breeds. The Biewers bred yorkies ONLY, no other breeds.
Gunther was exceptionally surprised when he was told of the controversy's here in the states and could not understand the confusion. The Biewer is as it always has been, it has not changed.. it is the same dog now as when it was originally bred by the Biewers traditionally colored dogs.
I will be going back to Germany next summer for my grandsons baptism.. my hope is to visit some Biewer breeders in hopes of learning all I can and fill in some of these questions.. there are still a few left who have knowledge and experience in the formation of these dogs and will know the pedigrees. I know many of them have stopped posting on the database because of the "issues" mentioned above.. unless we can get these holes filled in now before the ones who really know the history, we'll be forever in the dark.
I have also been asked to bring my Parti boy with me.. which hopefully I will be able to do.
Diana
