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					Originally Posted by Lizzie07  So, you are saying that the ivermectin sold for livestock isn't actual ivermectin? Or is outdated, not kept at room temperatures? HUH?
 For your information, after a dog is treated for HW, a worm can dislodge into a lung and kill a dog. How is that different than what you are saying above? And heartguard is being used, by vets, to treat HW, especially in pets deemed too ill to withstand the treatment.
 
 HWP can save lives too. NOT giving it can't. At least a dog has a chance, a real chance to live if it gets preventive. HWs can and DO kill dogs.
 
 All I am advocating, and I mean all, is that in the case of someone who won't pay for the test or can't afford it, at the very least a vet could do is try to get them to put the dog on heartguard. Do the same thing you would do if it were the treatment the dog was getting, warn the owner about the risks and what to look for.
 
 I don't understand why I have to repeat myself. ALL I am saying is that, at the very least, giving the heartguard rather than NOTHING is better.
 
 I DO get annual HWT on my pets. I am not advocating not doing that. I am advocating that when a person can't afford or won't pay for a HWT, just give them the heartguard. AT least then the pet has a chance. HWs will kill a pet. Period. That's for sure. Most pet owners WILL get the annual test, if recommended by their vets, just like they get the annual immunizations if their vets recommend them (and that is a whole 'nother topic).
 
 We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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  Kristan, I get where you are coming from. However, how long do you think it would take for another customer to come into a practice and say "so and so" got HW meds without having to pay for a test why can't I?  Word of mouth spreads like fire.  Also, the price of the test, is a drop in the bucket compared to the price of the meds.  It is for mine anyways.  If someone is not going to pay for the test, I highly doubt they will pay for the meds.  Vets not only treat their patients, but they are not idiots when it comes to reading the "people" before them.  It is easy to look at their history with the practice, the patient before him, the "person" before him, evaluate the entire visit, and make a pretty spot on informed decision about the "whole" picture.   What the customer stands there and tells the vet, is not always what the picture before him says, and it is ultimately up to him to make that decision. 
Really though, if you have a good, long standing, loyal relationship with your vet, there is no limit to what they will do for you.  My vet gives me advice I know he doesn't just give to anybody.  He also knows I will not turn on him when something goes wrong.  I trust him completley, he knows my animals, how I care for my animals, and he gives me advice according to what I can handle based on my experience and history with him, not always based on medicine alone.  Trust and loyalty is a two way street.   
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