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Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer  Biewers are shown against each other, they would go into "group" with the yorkis (if there were any at the show) and then show against them ... the same would go for Parti's ... the Parti' would show against (with) the Parti first, then go into group to show against the Biewer and the Yorkie.. the NAKC (the only venue at the present that allows Parti's to show) keeps the Parti as a "seperate breed" from the Yorki, just like the Biewer... This is how the Biewer was designated a seperate breed.. so they could be shown..
To become "thought of" as it's own breed in one part of the world maybe be far easier than in the states, and have a different set of criteria.. The Germans don't feel that just because the Biewers have their own name and identity, that when breeding back to the traditionally colored yorkie, they are mixing breeds, any more than you feel mixing Parti's to traditionals are mixing breeds.. They feel the Biewer is a Yorkshire Terrier.. it came from Yorkies, it is a yorkie.
The "Biewer" name depicts the COLOR in a Yorki.. just as here.. we use PARTI... there, they used BIEWER because that's the man's name who championed these dogs and brought them into the light. Did you know that it is comman practice to register a litter that has both traditionally colored pups in it and Biewer (Parti) colored pups in it as Biewer's for the colored ones and Yorki's for the traditionally colored ones!! Same litter.. now, if they were seperate BREEDS, that would not happen would it???.. they are registering COLORS.. not breeds. Color alone can not make a seperate breed... nor does docking the tail or having the "spots" in a specific pattern.
You say Biewers have developed into their own breed.. how does that happen.. do they just one day MORPH into a breed of their own?? You say they have their own standard and Club.. well, so do Parti's ... does that make them THEIR own Breed???
You can't have it both ways on this issue.. these are the same dogs.. they come from the same kennel initially, YES, they have differnet names, YES they have taken differnet paths to get where they are today, but you can't say that breeding one back to the traditionally colored yorkie is breeding within breed and breeding the other is "mixing" breeds..
Diana  |
They are listesd as Biewer Yorkshire Terrier ala Pom Pom. That is not a color.
The word parti is used to describe a dog with random spotting, of any breed of dog, You do not hear a spotted cocker spaniel called a biewer colored, it is parti colored.
YES they are the same dog, I have said this from the beginnming. BUT they are not treated the same, here in the US. The AKC will not register them as yorkshire terriers.
That is what I have said from my very first post.
I am not arguing that point. you are giving half of the facts, leading people to believe that they are recognized as the same dog, and they are NOT.
Genetically the are the same. But they are not recognized by the AKC as yorkshire terriers. if they were they would be allowed to be registered the same as the parti color is.