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Old 07-27-2010, 09:39 AM   #686
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Okay, I'm respectfully curious...so just asking

[with all respect for everyone]

Why doesn’t/didn’t the parti get its own breed recognition instead of fighting for AKC Yorkshire Terrier and be bred in opposition to the standard? Apparently the parti and biewer are the same dogs but biewers are "obviously" mixed anyway? Isn't that just fighting for a position which is often seen as unethical, when they could have their own breed standard, their own breed ring, be shown honestly and be bred according to standard? Even if they were originally purebred bloodlines... breed type has been changed anyway!? IMO they'd have a tremendously greater chance at improving the breed. Call them American Parti Terriers...or whatever seems fit.

Many reputable breeders are also exhibitors so they are going to breed to standard. (I didn’t say reputable breeders are all show breeders; or all show breeders are reputable) If the parti works its way toward a new standard then you’re going to get more breeders who breed for the betterment since there is a standard of perfection for them. I would think it’s going to take an awfully long time to get anywhere without.

Since the YTCA has already addressed the tri-color and if the AKC is truly not going to allow any more varieties, is there anything to continue fighting for besides a new breed standard?

I understand you can’t just breed a new color and call it a new breed, but are there not several other accepted breeds that were originally bred from other accepted breeds? They are very closely related but are separate breeds NOW with separate standards. Yes it’s going to take a lot of time work and dedication, but in the end the parti will end up with what they want without fighting indefinitely. Seems to me there's plenty of dedication. But partis been fighting for 4 years and have only gotten a DQ for white. So continue fighting in the same direction???

It seems like there isn’t a need to fight an eternal battle, when there could be another way with a proper approach to get these dogs accepted and showing that makes ALL passionate breeders happy. Seems like there would be way more reputable breeders that would get into the bloodline for the betterment of the breed. I don’t think there’s much hope to better the breed until they conform to standard. I'm sure there are many very reputable breeders who actually like the parti-color but will not breed because it's in opposition to the standard.

It is not my attempt to judge or condemn anyone...I really see a possibility for the partis to have full acceptance that makes all passionate breeders happy, and a route that will open the door for incredible opportunities to improve the breed. Win/Win!?

Sorry so long
You cannot establish a new breed based on color. Since they are first and foremost, yorkies they fall under the YTCA. the German registries did not have this requirement therfore the Biewers were able to become a breed by themselves. But that is also why the AKC does not recognize the Biewer but it does recognize the parti.

Hope that answers your question

PS I believe that the AKC requires 3 breeds to be mixed to create a new breed.

Last edited by JeanieK; 07-27-2010 at 09:41 AM.
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