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Old 07-12-2010, 02:26 PM   #86
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Originally Posted by Ellie May View Post
I want to know if parasite larvae is killed during freezing. Anybody know?
I can tell you reallllllllllllly want what is best. For us, the choice is so easy b/c she isn't allowed to have anything else medically. lol.

At this point, I think what diet is better for the doggies is based on hearsay and not necessarily science. We can say that wolves eat raw so dogs should, but is that the safest? Probably not. There are no studies that take a look at the overall picture. It's all one small area of the feeding plan and the control groups don't seem quite right to me. In the one study they tested what, 24 types of raw food against 4 types of kibble/canned? I dunno. Doesn't seem right. But then, of course raw is going to have more bacteria, etc. So nutritionally speaking we could say that dogs should get what wolves get b/c they are pretty much wolves. But that does not take the safety issue into account, the fact that what wolves eat my not be optimal, etc. Just like I can say homecooked is great if done correctly. I have no study to base that on. There are subjective reports of dogs doing well on it. There is no control group of kibble fed dogs. So it's coming down to testimonials pretty much. That's not all bad, but it's not science either. And I know for me the studies I do see on raw absolutely positively make me want to run the other way b/c unless I see raw fed dogs regularly living longer lives (it would have to be very obvious), then I wouldn't take the risk. I still see raw fed (and homecooked fed) dogs get sick and I don't see an increase in lifespan across the board (20 years +). So I think it's really still a ton of guessing.
ok, you always answer my questions, so i really want to answer a few questions for you! (but you always know more than i do! so it's hard to do!) lol.

i just looked at my food safety notes from class, and it says:

parasitic infections:
a) worms form cysts.
b) if you eat the adult, the worm is killed
c) if you eat the cyst, calcium salts around the cyst are dissolved in the stomach,
d) worm ho into stomach, intestine.
e)travel through lymph system to muscle tissue
f) .....
ok, i am just going to skip to the part that answers your Q. lol

worms can then go into dormant stage (cyst forms)
can be destroyed at 140F for 10 minutes, or 4% salt solution for 14 days, or by freezing at -20F, sterilized meat in 6 days.
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