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Old 06-24-2010, 07:10 AM   #284
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My intent is to help you understand, not to confuse you more. The info I choose to present comes from my own research and some personal experience. I present it to you so that when you have discussions with your vet, you can go in with a broader knowledge base and a deeper understanding of what may be going on with your dog, not diagnosing here at all, just emphasizing what may be important things to consider asking the vet about. If this is overloading you or is too much info, let me know and I will stop posting.



From my research, Doxy is the drug of choice to treat TBD, and it is common practice to give a higher dose (double the norm) in treating these diseases, as a more agressive protocol is what has been found to be most effective. Some meds may react with Doxy, your vet would research this before administering/prescribing.



Just a note: Pancreatitis usually presents as back pain, and a dog may have difficulty walking. Gall Bladder problems usually present as abdominal pain... I say usually, because I am sure there are cases that present themselves differently for other reasons.



An ultrasound can give a clearer picture of what is going on, like live TV opposed to hitting the 'pause' button. They can move and manipulate the dog to get a better look at specific organs and watch what is happening.
An xray may show a tumor, if it is in the direct field of vision, but alot can be missed on an xray.

Many drugs can cause liver damage, the good thing is that when the drugs are stopped, the liver will repair itself, in most cases.

This is the absolute best link I have come across explaining bloodwork:

The diagnostic approach to asymptomatic dogs with elevated liver enzyme activities - Veterinary Medicine=



They did an Xray.



My dog had high ALT, AST, with ALP wnl.

What tests lead to suspicion/diagnosis of MVD, or did you just decide to do a BAT?

Also to note: L/D dry is Brewers Rice, Pork fat...etc. 14.5% protein, 20.5% crude fat. The L/D canned is: water, rice, egg product, chicken fat...etc and is 4.5% protein, 6% fat. (need to do Dry Weight conversion to get a better number for comparison... there's a link in the YT Library))

LS dogs are usually always thin, hard to get them to put and keep any weight on. My pup is doing great on this and has gained 2 pounds. Also, this is the food/diet recommended by Dr. Tobias, Uof Tenn. to LS dogs. They say it is the best thing one can to, that makes the most good effects when getting a dog up to a more acceptable level of health (like while waiting for tests and pre surgery).
with dex pancreatitis never noticed back pain it was all abdominal pain through palpatation. He was so uncomfortable he was tossing and turning and could not get comfortable and then massive vomitting over and over so i rushed him in immediately.

They ran bats on dee dee bc she was going on atopica and temarilp and they wanted her liver tested prior to doing any meds since she was a yorkie. They did post bat only first time and it was 73, then they wanted to repeat and do pre and post -pre 3 and post 54 then they wanted scintigraphy done and as soon as they said radioactive dye i said WHOA HOLD ON. I went home stayed up 24 hrs like studying for a college exam and read EVERYTHING on liver disease in dogs and joined two liver groups on yahoo and read every day for months. I nixed the scintigraphy as bats were below 100 and my dog had no symptoms other than skin issues which when the liver is not processing things properly skin can be affected as the toxins excrete through skin if not release through body so it can be a side effect. I put her on low protein diet of 18% protein and had her bats re ran by jean dodds 6 months later and she was pre 3 and post 26 normal being 25 and below so the diet alone was a huge difference. Also at time it was 26 she was on atopica and temarilp for her allergies so the low protein diet alone made a huge difference. I do not do any supplements for her liver as her allergies are the biggest concern I have therefore anything she gets in her mouth I am very cautious of as it can cause a reaction to her. When Jean comes out with her liver cleansing diet dog food which she is working on I will then transition dd on to that.

How is miss daisy today?

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