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Originally Posted by dwerten  snack to some people can mean TREAT Kellie and most people give their dogs meals or treats. |
i cannot control how people interpret my words.
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I told this person to question the vet you said no big deal your dog takes nsaids and has mvd and questioning vet was not of concern to you. Crystal even said she would question it as well.
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actually what i said was: "honestly i'm not concerned about the metacam. Morgan has MVD and i give it to her without problems and i know plenty of other dogs that have used metacam as well." Since you want to nit pick everything i say i will clarify. 1) i was not concerned about the metacam use in that particular case because of all the other things that were going on with the dog. 2) Morgan has asymptomatic MVD and I have given her Metacam. nothing else to add to that. yes she has MVD and yes i've given her metacam in the past with no problems. 3) Yes i know of other cases where dogs were given NSAIDs (usually metacam) when they had liver issues. These cases also had other problems that were more pressing and needed the anti-inflammatory.
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Mid meal is safest the more food the better - read the part ulcers, perforation, intestinal bleeding. This is the reason you give mid meal as yes if the dog gets an upset stomach they can get any of the above. You also stated to me it was safe to even give on empty stomach which is very dangerous.
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do you eat a full meal every time you take advil, motrin or aleve? those are NSAIDs as well.
You cannot make a general statement saying it is "very dangerous" to take the drug on an empty stomach, because it is not. Sure you may have only hard about the horrible cases but that doesn't mean there aren't millions of other cases that did wonderfully on the drug this way.
Metacam and Rimadyl both state that they do not require food to be given with the medication. Some dogs can take it on an empty stomach and have no problems what so ever no matter how long they take it. Some dogs can get an upset stomach this way so it is usually recommended to give it with food just in case to prevent this (or at least that's what i always told owners. just like prescription human meds, they can cause upset stomach so its best to give with food). Some dogs can also have more serious adverse reactions to it (just like with any drug) no matter when you give the drug and with what.
everyone needs to remember that there are at least 70 million dogs in the US alone - each dog is an individual and has its very own individual problems. You cannot generalize problems. Each and every case is different. what happens to one dog may not happen to another. every dog reacts differently, even if they have similar issues. When an owner is concerned its best to ask the vet any questions you may have, even if you think its a minor concern. do your own research, and then bring those questions to a professional.