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Old 06-09-2010, 09:22 AM   #28
dwerten
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Also in regards to fish oil that manolos mom is giving. You never give fish oil that is not combined with vitamin E as fish oil depletes the body of vitamin E so this could cause problems and why people should not supplement without discussing with a animal nutritionist as you can be doing more harm than good for the dog. Nordic naturals omega 3 is the most pure for dogs and has vitamin E in it and why I recommend it. It is distilled so no mercury. Cheap fish oil caps can have mercury thus a toxin in a liver dog and not good. I am 50/50 on supplementing with fatty acids as this breed is known to have pancreatitis issues and fatty acids while rare can trigger pancreatitis as I have seen it happen where someone added grizzly salmon oil to diet and dog ended up with pancreatitis. I personally would never want to go through pancreatitis again having gone through it as it is deadly and very expensive to treat.

Also prefer isoflurine to sevoflurine after doing alot of research on this prior to my mvd dog having dental. The board certified dentist we go to uses isoflurine and I was happy about that. One vet we went to uses sevo and raved about it but after learning about it I do not care for it. Sevo is what we use in humans and our bodies are much bigger than toy dogs and sevo brings your body out much faster than iso which I do not think is good for a toy dog and prefer coming out slower from anesthesia as not as hard on their bodies. Also hypothermia is an issue with sevo more so than iso so someone has to be watching dog at all times after procedure. Sevo has no smell which is great where as iso does have a smell. I just much prefer iso and this info was also confirmed by several vets as well as board certified dentist we deal with.

Also bats are not the only thing that should be checked but also urine and I do not want to get into another HUGE DEBATE but I prefer free catch to cysto so the urinalysis can be run to see if crystals in the urine as dogs with liver issues can get stones so this is another reason why protein content is critical in liver dogs and why I think it should be 22% with no symptoms. Cysto is where they put a needle in the bladder and I do not prefer invasive procedures that I feel are unnecessary just like I do not agree with liver biopsy for mvd dogs as too invasive. If there are crystals in the urine it will show up on a free catch or a catch off the back of a wee wee pad.

My dog has mvd and the only way I knew it is she had to have bats prior to taking a medication for allergies. They had me all freaked out when her post bat came in at 73 and wanted me to run down for scintigraphy and after going through a bunch of stuff with my pancreatitis dog and spending thousands I learned a few things one being about yahoo groups so I told vet I am holding off and will get back to you as my dog shows no symptoms of this so I joined yahoo groups on liver disease and learned it was not necessary to stick radioactive dye in my dog as she has no symptoms and her bats were below 100. We ran another pre and post with vet then 6 mos on Purina ha (a soy diet) I had dr jean dodds who designed the liver cleansing diet do dd bats and she was at 26 on 18% protein diet. I do not supplement her as she has allergies and hypothyroid so she has more pressing issues and supplements can make her allergies worse and that is my biggest issue with her not so much her liver since having her on a low protein diet.
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