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YorkyKids · 11-28-2005, 12:50 PM

I want to say.....yes many problems arrise with whelp no matter what size the bitch is. But larger dogs are more equiped to handle the stress of difficult pregancy or whelp. Small tiny dogs.....have almost no chance of a problem free preg. and whelp. Yes I'm SURE it happens.....she by the grace of God may have no problems at all....but I don't think this is the norm. The reason we don't hear of the fatal cases is breeders will not share that information....they really don't want you to see the failures.....preferring instead to speak of the "successes"....and always bragging while never admitting how that tiny bitch may have suffered or even died. We see so many websites PROCLAIMING.....they breed only tinies....and they HAVE so many tinies. Is anyone willing to step up and tell of the successes and failures? Anyone?

One question I would like answered.....what the heck do they do with the "normal" or "over-sized" pups....years ago breeders would "bucket" (drown in a bucket of water) those undesirable or unwanted pups....do you suppose this is being done today......to keep only the "small genes". I wonder!

Here is a list of complications during pregnancy and whelping may mean result in a life-threatening situation to the dam and/or the puppies. These can happen to any bitch....but with a tiny...her chances of survival are decreased dramaticly. One must also remember.....most vets do NOT have hands on experience with whelping bitches of any size.....must less a tiny. They may have NEVER even performed a c-section in vet school.

Pelvic canal obstruction due to fetal over-size - The bitch has failed to progress to second-stage labor (delivery of pups) after 6-8 hours of first stage labor. This is fairly common with a tiny bitch. I know of a tiny 3 pound bitch who fractured her pelvis in her attempt to deliver an oversized puppy.....her owners were shall I say completely CLUELESS....they let this girl lay in labor for over 24 hours!!

Uterine Inertia- The bitch demonstrates evidence of intense abdominal pain and symptoms indicative of shock such as pale mucus membranes, rapid and thready pulse, sudden drop in body temperature (below the 98oF associated with whelping) or collapse. This is an emergency go to a vet immediately. This is also a common happening in a tiny bitch.....her body just cannot withstand the stress of carrying pups for 60+ days and the extreme of delivery.

Pre-eclampsia/eclampsia - The bitch experiences muscle weakness, muscle-spasms, muscle-tremors, or muscle-rigidity, or seizures. This is an emergency go to a vet immediately.

Uterine torsion or rupture -The bitch is passing a heavy, persistent flow of fresh blood from the vulva. This is an emergency go to a vet immediately. Happens more than we like to think in small bitches.

Hemorrhage - The bitch is passing a heavy, persistent flow of fresh blood from the vulva. This is an emergency go to a vet immediately. A tiny bitch most likely will not survive a hemorrhage like this.

Premature Placental Separation - No pups have been whelped, but the bitch is passing thick, black-green discharge from the vulva. This happens because the uterus is just not large enough and one or more of the puppies die.....the resulting infection causes death of the bitch in many cases.

11-28-2005, 12:50 PM	#81
YorkyKids Currently Suspended! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Posts: 144	Breeding tinies I want to say.....yes many problems arrise with whelp no matter what size the bitch is. But larger dogs are more equiped to handle the stress of difficult pregancy or whelp. Small tiny dogs.....have almost no chance of a problem free preg. and whelp. Yes I'm SURE it happens.....she by the grace of God may have no problems at all....but I don't think this is the norm. The reason we don't hear of the fatal cases is breeders will not share that information....they really don't want you to see the failures.....preferring instead to speak of the "successes"....and always bragging while never admitting how that tiny bitch may have suffered or even died. We see so many websites PROCLAIMING.....they breed only tinies....and they HAVE so many tinies. Is anyone willing to step up and tell of the successes and failures? Anyone? One question I would like answered.....what the heck do they do with the "normal" or "over-sized" pups....years ago breeders would "bucket" (drown in a bucket of water) those undesirable or unwanted pups....do you suppose this is being done today......to keep only the "small genes". I wonder! Here is a list of complications during pregnancy and whelping may mean result in a life-threatening situation to the dam and/or the puppies. These can happen to any bitch....but with a tiny...her chances of survival are decreased dramaticly. One must also remember.....most vets do NOT have hands on experience with whelping bitches of any size.....must less a tiny. They may have NEVER even performed a c-section in vet school. Pelvic canal obstruction due to fetal over-size - The bitch has failed to progress to second-stage labor (delivery of pups) after 6-8 hours of first stage labor. This is fairly common with a tiny bitch. I know of a tiny 3 pound bitch who fractured her pelvis in her attempt to deliver an oversized puppy.....her owners were shall I say completely CLUELESS....they let this girl lay in labor for over 24 hours!! Uterine Inertia- The bitch demonstrates evidence of intense abdominal pain and symptoms indicative of shock such as pale mucus membranes, rapid and thready pulse, sudden drop in body temperature (below the 98oF associated with whelping) or collapse. This is an emergency go to a vet immediately. This is also a common happening in a tiny bitch.....her body just cannot withstand the stress of carrying pups for 60+ days and the extreme of delivery. Pre-eclampsia/eclampsia - The bitch experiences muscle weakness, muscle-spasms, muscle-tremors, or muscle-rigidity, or seizures. This is an emergency go to a vet immediately. Uterine torsion or rupture -The bitch is passing a heavy, persistent flow of fresh blood from the vulva. This is an emergency go to a vet immediately. Happens more than we like to think in small bitches. Hemorrhage - The bitch is passing a heavy, persistent flow of fresh blood from the vulva. This is an emergency go to a vet immediately. A tiny bitch most likely will not survive a hemorrhage like this. Premature Placental Separation - No pups have been whelped, but the bitch is passing thick, black-green discharge from the vulva. This happens because the uterus is just not large enough and one or more of the puppies die.....the resulting infection causes death of the bitch in many cases.