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Old 03-08-2010, 08:32 PM   #22
RachelandSadie
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 View Post
I'm really sorry if I offended, you are right, it's not a humorous subject. I'm having a hard time explaining myself, and I guess my "LOL", was just out of my frustration. I was trying to say, the miller isn't some big bad boogieman, he looks just like a farmer. I do know that you are very well read on it, and you probably know more about this then me, I was just trying to explain that many farmers also raise dogs. I watched the videos and they interviewed the millers, and all I can say is that they called themselves farmers. I also know that the Amish who raise dogs are called farmers. The term farmer means to me, anyone who raises crops or animals, and lives in a rural area. I was only guessing why the farmers voted against this bill. It makes sense to me, but if it doesn't make sense to you, that's ok, I'm not saying I'm right. I have a lot of respect for you, and I am very sorry if I offended you.

I can see by Rachel and Sadie's post that you are not alone in not understanding what I was trying to say. I meant no disrespect to farmers either.
ok now i totally hear what you are saying!! i agree with you that there are many out there that claim as their excuse for milling that they are simply "farming" dogs as if they are lifestock. i once used the amish lifestyle as an example of people who don't realize that what they are doing is anything other than normal. for an amish person who does view dogs more or less as livestock, they would consider themselves farmers, most midwestern farmers do not consider dogs livestock as i am familier with, but I can totally hear you on the arguement that most millers will call themselves a simple ol' farmer to get out of trouble with the media or others calling them what they are "puppy mills"

and yes millers can disguise themselves as nice kind old men and farmers. i have no idea what Sadie's breeder's home looked like or what he really does with her mommy and daddy. i am ashamed that i never saw or found out and now i'm sure i don't wish to know about them. you have to go look and make sure that friendly ol' "farmer" isn't pulling a shade over your eyes, that is for sure!!

thanks Nancy for clearing that up for me.
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