[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I understand your concern. Also, being an x-nurse.

I'm not a canine, but, I can only answer based on my experience. Do they whimper, yes, for a matter of seconds, not even a minute. So, in my opinion the discomfort I would liken to that of giving an injection. And I say this because mine scream louder when I give them their vaccinations.

On the lidocaine, vets do not recommend anything at this young age as it can cause more harm than good.

Now I've had to Sub-Q a 24 hour old pup. And the screaming was more heart wrenching then.....and I know this is no comparison, because it was a matter of attempting to save a pups life.

Oh! on the dew claws....I get no crying or whimpering. When I begin clipping nails....now that's another story.....mine scream before I even approach their feet.

This debate has been around forever, and there are pros and cons on each side. We just need to agree to disagree. Like Donna says, there are more important issues facing our breed than the tail docking debate. I for one wish to put my efforts on Shunt (as that is still very up in the air and until a DNA Marker is found, breeders are breeding blindly), PLE, LP, PRA......

Mary

If your puppies are screaming during a vaccination or doing sub-Q then your not doing it right. In 35 years I have been giving my dogs and puppies vaccinations I have NEVER had one even flinch let alone scream. But I can promise you I have heard many puppies scream while getting tails and dews done.