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Old 01-24-2010, 07:40 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by jencar98 View Post
Sadly though, for some time there have been disreputable Biewer breeders....so, wrong as it may be to use rescues to get homes for retired breeders, it doesn't surprise me to hear of one in a shelter or represented by other breed rescues.

In this case, what is likely to happen to the board member breeder? Are there club rules that would prevent (suspension, fines, etc) her from placing her dogs through a rescue other than Biewer rescue? Or, is it something that is just frowned upon?
Jen, you are so right. If you go to puppyfind.com you will see over 16 pages of Biewers for sale and the majority of people do not belong to a club so they are just pumping these dogs out. Many of them are in TX and they are just being breed in a puppymill situation. It is so sad because many of them are poorly breed and who knows what the health issues will be with these dogs. If you read the descriptions posted on these dogs they ALL have been raised in a family envoirnment and are very much loved as a family member...yea right.

These has always been one of my biggest issues how clubs talk about doing everything for the "betterment of the breeds" but most of them will do nothing to interfer with how the breeders handle their dog business. Over and over they will turn a blind eye to mistreatment of the animals and very unethical/moral business practices.

The other sad part is how breeders will protect each other if they belong to a club and will talk about each other behind their backs but will do nothing to protect the dogs. I have watched it happen here on YT abd watched breeders promoting other breeders and they have never been to their house nor do they know how the animals are really treated. When you see breeders strongly promoting other breeders or has other breeders dogs on their website people should run in the other direction...it is all about selling dogs for these people$$$ and not what is best for the dogs.

I think it is very important to remind people that just because someone belongs to a club does not mean they are good people nor do they do what is right by their dogs. I have watched breeders over the years learn to say the "right" thing but they don't have a clue about their dogs...they only know how to sell them with the right language. I have also watched rescue groups do the same thing.

I can only warn people to read between the lines and just because someone is "nice" does not mean they care about their dogs, even rescue people.

I also don't believe it makes sense that Biewers should only be rescued by a Biewer club...that would be very harmful to the dogs. Biewers are Yorkies and there is a much bigger database for Yorkie rescue (and people who know what they are doing in regards to rescue) then the few people who would take in a Biewer in the clubs. I think the lead Biewer people can help but I certainly do not want to see dogs being shipped all over the place.

All clubs must have a rescue organization in order to be consider for AKC and so many new breeds have rescue on paper but they are breeders and I feel the best place for a dog that needs a new home should go to a group that only handles rescues. Many breeders have their own dogs to sell and their puppies to raise and they will move the rescue out to fast. Not all but many just won't place the rescue very high in their priority. Many breeders do not know how to handle dogs that have been abused as they are used to working with very young dogs so there is a lack of experience in this area.

My hat is off to anyone that will help place these precious little ones into new and wonderful homes and do what is right by the dogs.
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