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Originally Posted by remus

This forum has long steered away from its original roots a few years back and became a political and social battle ground of some sort for whatever reason.

This forum and most people are more educated and aware of byb and puppymills. But still there are people out there that don't know about them. I think it's our duty to try to educated even more people. We need to have the more truth out on the net, as a lot of people don't even know about the "teacup" term, etc.

If I want to have my dog to have a family that will stay within my family I will do so within my rights.

So you want to be a byb then.

And if you think you are being humane by trying to help stop growth of dog population around the world, why not expand the idea and promote the same idea for humans?

In China you can only have one child, so this does pertain to humans as well. I'm one of those crazy people that think you should take a test or something to see if you would be a fit parent, b/c there ARE a lot of unwanted children in this world. Also people do spay/neuter themselves, you can get your tubes tied, etc. Lots of babies up for adoption, but people want to make their OWN baby. Adopting a baby is expensive, but MAKING one (or trying to) is free. (Not talking about raising a kid)

Or is human life more important or more sacred in any way?? If so, explain why. Millions of unwanted children, humans roam this earth and pollute this planet. What is the difference between two animals like a dog and a human? One does more harm than the other, you figure it out which one it is. So please, lets not be selective about a global issue of overpopulation.

I don't know why you got offended, I clearly stated that I treat my dog with same respect I would treat any respectable human.
I would not leave my dog in the car while I go shop in a supermarket. Would you leave your children in a car while you shopped? No, A dog? Maybe. So why would someone leave the dog in a car and not a toddler? Is the toddler more important that a pup?

Uh, yes a toddler IS more important than a dog. Also you can't bring a dog into all places, a human baby you can. And yes I HAVE left my dog in the car before.

If that is the case, we can clearly see what sort of person would let their dog reproduce aimlessly contributing dog dog population and which one would not. I know where I stand.

So since I have left my dog in the car that means I would let my dog reproduce aimlessly? And you think breeding your dogs b/c your family members want one, that you are NOT reproducing your dog aimlessly?

That double standard I will not understand, and frankly I don't have to.

May I remind you, since this is a free world and a free forum, we are more than welcome to state our opinions without being judgmental!



My apologies go out to the original poster for somehow contributing to diversion from the original topic.

I also want to add, since you say you are giving the future pups to your family, and not selling them that makes it ok? What if there is some kind of emergency c section or other expenses, are you going to foot the bill or make your family pay? What if your dog dies and then there are no puppies? Have you done any testing for genetic defects? Some don't show up for years. Are your dogs even good representations of the breed? Just b/c a dog is purebred doesn't necessarily mean it fits the standards. For example, Uni is under 7 lbs, and looks like a yorkie, but she is not a good candidate for reproducting. her legs are too long, her coloring is not dark enough, and she has a genetic disorder, LP grade 3.

I was approached by a lady who told me if I ever want to breed her, she has a stud. I say, No way, i would not breed her, she has LP. The lady says, What's that? She contributes to the overpopulation of dogs, and she doesn't even know about one of the most common genetic disorders in toy breeds.