You know even when I was a newbie to the show ring...The first person I went to for a show dog didn't turn me down because they saw that I was serious in my showing and let me purchase my dog Tucker and my first show bitch Cammie I didn't even have to ask for she was "offered" to me at pet price and not even a show price and I took her to the top 10 in the rankings. And then when it was time to seek out my next male I made my first contact and that was Radar's breeder and I got Radar. So what I'm trying to say is even if you are a newbie and you are serious it's NOT hard to get what you want as long as you are doing it right and they know it. Everyone I came in contact with knew I was on the up and up and was going to do what I set out to do plain and simple. I guess I was one of the lucky ones. But I have proved myself time and time again and now I'm in contact with a good breeder for a show bitch and guess what, we are just waiting on her to see if she is going to turn out for show and if so she's mine