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Originally Posted by chattiesmom  The answer to all of the above is no. However, I am NOT going to make blanket statements about his methods - positive or negative. But I can tell you that I have gleaned some of his techniques and have put them into practice with my training and have had success. Puppy mills have nothing to do with this so let's not get off topic 
I choose not to read the plethora of stuff that you link because there is no way to verify the data. Although I do recognize that the AHA does good, I also recognize that the organization has radicals that come up with some really crazy ideas.
I don't need any group to tell me what to think or what works for me. I am able to discern between healthy training and abuse. I am also intuned enough with my cirtters to know when they are stressed - and when I should push through and when I need to back off. |
In coppingers work there is a whole list of research date. it is proveable and repeatable. It been done again.This is stuff being looked at again and again and it porven again and again. There are studies rght now on CM fall out we are going to see this again if not by me another.
In james ohears stuff there is data.
In overalls stuff there is dats.
I need no group either this is leg work and understanding why dogs work the way they do and it is not any where near what Cm say.
Pushing animal through something again if not wired right will bit you. So why go there.
It is not crazy stuff when this is world wide any more then the guy who first said the world was round and got beat on for it.
If one is to scared to go see to open once mind to learning from reputable organizations like vets and other drs I fine with that but accusing me of being closed minded is like the pot calling the kettle black.
If one can not look past what one thinks one knows to the facts cause one is to afraid than that is closed minded.
And accusing reputable groups if organization like the ABVS is laughable.
JL