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Old 09-14-2009, 12:57 AM   #120
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Originally Posted by Chance View Post
I don't have to do that, because I have already saw the signs you are
referring to. I to have seen him get on top of a dog and hold them down
to show he is in control, I just wonder what he will do when his shock
collars fell and the dog is aggressive enough that it gets a hold of him
good. I use the reward method with Chance, I get her used to doing
what I expect of her with treats and love then I taper off the treats
and just use praise and love as a reward. That works well for us. I
was Animal Planet with Victoria Stilwell. She and I like the praise and
love and treat method over physical control. I would rather Chance to
want to do tricks and obedience because she respects me and wants
to please me than because she is afraid not to, because of what
punishment she may get. But everyone is different, I believe all dogs
want to please there owners so treats and praise will work for all dogs,
the people just need to have more patience and understanding for the
dog. Remember you never know what has went on in that dogs life
before it was yours. I feel, and it is just my thought, that there is know
bad dog, just bad owners, and that goes for Pitbulls also.
There is really no need for everyone to get so upset over this thread,
it is your dogs, and you get to train them however you want. That is
what is so great about AMERICA, we are FREE, to do what we choose
to do.. There are far worse things going on in the world now to worry
about than C.M.

First of all, I respect your right to your views. and you are right about the freedoms we enjoy as Americans.

Unfortunately the television shows are not the sum total of what Cesar Milan does. Way too many people only see a small piece of the puzzle and make a judgement. Putting things into perspective, Cesar Milan deals with problem dogs. Most of our Yorkies have problems but aren't problem dogs. I agree 100% with using positive training methods, treats, bribery. Works with human kids as well.

If we keep an open mind we can learn from Cesar, Pat, Victoria, Karen, and each other. We all have invaluable knowledge -- what works for me may or may not work for you. My foremost training rules I learned from a horse trainer:

1) I cannot get hurt
2) My horse/dog/whatever cannot get hurt
3) My horse/dog/whatever must be more relaxed at the end of the training session than before we started
4) Pain is a deterrent to learning
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