Mardalin... Thank you for your input. I understand what your saying. I hope I didn't offend anyone when I said "I dont want to breed them to sell them, I could never give my babies off to a stranger". I got my dogs from breeders, who are very good people. I just could never do that. I want to have one litter to keep them whether its one or 4. I understand the risks, and everything that's involved. They are both virgins. I watched them carefully and noticed he is hitting his target, he is not getting in. Now, whether she isn't letting him in or not, I don't know. I can tell you he is non-stop on her. He will rest for about 10 minutes, then he's on again. It seems she is allowing it, since she moves her tail to the side. If this doesn't work, maybe i'll get them fixed and just go buy another dog. I just really wanted to have their offspring since they are such good dogs with health and everything else. Thanks again though.