[lgoodall]

We're still in a friendly debate here ok ? I don't want anything I say to sound sarcastic. I don't mean for it to. Yes dog fighting has been around through the ages. I know you're familiar with the history of England, and another European countries. They put people on a rack, and stretched them until their bodies just broke apart. They also hung people, but gutted them before they died. We know of all the beheadings that took place. Most of the time they put the rotting heads on a stake along the Thames River. They also put dogs in a pit to fight lions. However, we're supposed to have come a long way since those barbaric times. Everyone alive today knows that cruelty to any living being is wrong. Yes' the player who got druck, and killed several should have spent a lifetime in prison. Believe me, I would never excuse or take up for a drunk driver. You know before you take the wheel of a car that terrible things can happen. However, the accident took place because of the excessive use of alcohol. This DOES NOt excuse the guy, but it was not a deliberate act of cruelty. His motivation was to drink, get high, and feel good. He didn't kill those people for the enjoyment of watching them suffer. It takes a person with a severe character flaw to condone suffering of animals. I mentioned before that Tony Dungee was mentoring Vick. There's no better person to use to try to bring about good in people. I still would never let Michael Vick baby sit my Tucker Baby. Tucker's Mom