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Old 08-08-2009, 11:27 AM   #89
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This is what I don't understand...and I wish someone would explain to me why people are disagreeing with the experts that have studied dogs all their lives and have come out against his methods? Head of canine behavior with Tufts Vet school for one. If some of what Cesar endorses was done to any of my Yorkie rescues then the dogs would be dead as they bite first and ask questions second. I also don't understand why it is okay to zap a bulldog but not a Yorkie...why? I cannot endorse this type of training no matter what kind of dog it is used on.

As a side note I spent my summers at a girls ranch in Wyoming and they broke horses in a couple of days by beating the crap out of them and using a lot of cruel methods. This has gone on for how long until the horse whisperer came along and showed a whole new method to train horses - sure it takes longer but the same results without hitting the horses or hitting them with jackets or riding them until they almost collapse.

I get that he is interesting to watch (I watch from time to time) and I like his noise training to get their attention etc but for any of us that have dogs with issues I do not agree with his Alpha Roll method or his collar methods. Neither do the experts.

I think all of us can pick up different little methods but if the experts (animal behaviorists) that have their PhD’s in studying animals tell me that different theories are no longer applicable then I am going to listen to them.

I have posted what the experts have to say and here are a few more and obviously this debate is not just here at YT...it is on almost all dog forums. WOW!

The Anti-Cesar Millan | PetRescue

There is a quiet battle being fought in dog-training circles, and Dunbar, though he didn't pick the fight, represents one side. The mild, very mannered Dunbar is armed with degrees and scientific study: a veterinary degree and a Special Honors in physiology and biochemistry from the Royal Veterinary College of London University, a doctorate in animal behavior from the psychology department of UC Berkeley and a decade of research on the olfactory communication, social behavior and aggression in domestic dogs. All this, plus decades of dog-training experience.

Impressive, yes, but his opponent in this training controversy is backed by big business, Hollywood celebrity and, even worse, some say, the power of charisma. Cesar Millan, a.k.a. the Dog Whisperer, has his own television series on the National Geographic Channel and is churning out a burgeoning enterprise of videos and books. The subject of a recent New Yorker profile by Malcolm Gladwell, Millan is often photographed on high-tech in-line skates, leading a pack of pit bulls, rottweilers and German shepherds. The sexy Millan's dog-handling credentials include an upbringing on a Mexican farm, an "uncanny gift for communicating with dogs" and his Dog Psychology Center in Los Angeles. There, with a pack of 50 dogs, he rehabilitates wayward canines.


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