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Okay, I'm going to make one more post about posting, and then I will be quiet (about this). This is directed at everyone, including myself.

When you are debating a topic, you have to find something to respect about the topic of debate and those you are debating with. Otherwise, it will devolve into tit for tat comments. For instance, everyone who posts on this thread loves their dogs and is interested in training, otherwise they wouldn't be reading this thread. Lots of people don't care about training their dogs, so I respect people for just being interested, and thinking about how their dogs think.

I respect people who have studied canine behavior, who have read up on the subject, and who have degrees in different aspects of animal biology. I respect people who volunteer at shelters, and people who work with abused dogs. So even though I disagree with many of Cesar's methods, I don't think he is a bad man, because I believe he does genuinely love dogs and wants to help them.