[YorkieMother]

There is a ton of great info here and thanks for leaving it open.
Ok so I do not have to quote everyone and do a dozen more posts.
Actually no Mick Vicks dogs had to go to very specific groups that could manage these dogs under the laws in the states they went to and the guys that in took them first had to do an assessment and with those place them only those meeting highest standards.
I actully would not have been about to intact a vicks dog at the time that they where in need as I was in a place that does not by law allow this breed.

That be a whole other debate thread on breed bands and dogs bites and I not ready to open that can of worms. LOL

As for Ceaser these dog where looked at by vet and PHD behaviourist for liabilty reasons and for sure they not be allowing him to work with them.

Ceaser is not the only one that works with the worse of the worse there are any number of trainers out there from Dr Dunbar, Dr McConnell, Dr Bourque, Dr Dodman, Dr yin, Dr. Overall, Pat dennsion, Pat Miller, Emma Paresons,
Lesile Mcdermitt, Terry Ryan, Jean Donaldson, Brenda Aloff, and many many many more that can and do work with these guys . Oh yes the folks at dog town.

You say he does not abuse I keep saying shock collars are abuse and he uses them. NowI find he uses static mats.The collar he uses the one he made been cited for choking dogs, cutting of air to the brain of the dogs and their for rendering harm to them.

I just not sure how one can say that is not abuse. But then again it only a dog not anything packing the ability to think feel or reason at any level worth building trust and respect. Humm that was once said about wait couldit be the female humans at one time.
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JL