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Originally Posted by YorkieMother  Where to start.. ok birds are a straight line hierarchy and dogs and wolves and even dophines are not and chickens are the only being that is a stright line hierarchy.
I suggest you look into domiance theroy by james O heare and also there is a great DVD by jean donlason I think it is and Ian dunbar on dog training in a ceaser world. When i get home again ffrom the this trip will find the real title.
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Are you saying that birds are, or are not a straight line hierarchy? I was agreeing with you that dogs and wolves are not.
I'm going to disagree with you on dolphins, because I've read quite a bit on this, even dolphin biology textbooks. Dolphins sleep according to rank. The higher ranked you are, the closer to the surface you sleep. It's better to sleep higher, because dolphins need to breathe air. I will caveat this by saying that dolphins in the wild are very hard to study, and they appear to form different pod structures. Also, of course, there is still the "forced pack (pod)" problem when studying them in captivity.
Karen Pryor mentions this in her book, "Lads Before the Wind". One researcher was trying to study dominance theory, and they isolated one or two dolphins. Unfortunately, by doing this, they disturbed the rank order, and when the dolphins were returned, they had to start on the bottom again.
Anyway, I think I was largely agreeing with you that dominance is complex and fluid, so it's a little weird to find you disagreeing with my agreement.