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Originally Posted by Beachitmom  Wow lady'smom. Did your girl have liver disease also?
Yes, my vet has always monitored Roxy's levels. He will not fill the perscription unless I have the levels checked. I have been with my vet since Roxy was 2 months old. She has been on the pheno since then, along with the Hills L/D perscription diet.
He just added the Potassium Brom within the past 4 months because she had another grand mahl seizure and was having petite while sleeping.
We all thought the symptoms she was having were due to the meds she was on.
The kicker is he called me with the results of her levels for meds and they were perfect! Finally got her seizure free, but the pheno attacked her liver. Since she already had liver disease, the pheno just made it worse. Can't take her off of the pheno or she will die from the seizures. There is no winning.
Here is a list of what Roxy is on now. Vet added the last 4 this week to help her liver and keep her "comfortable" Roxy’s meds
Phenobarbitol 16.2 mg 2X a day (Started when she was 2 months old)
Potassium Brom 100ML 2X a day (started about 4 months ago) This week-
Hepatrophin PMG 1 Tab 2X a day
Aminophylline ˝ Tab 2X a day
Denosyl 225 MG once a day 1 hour before breakfast
Tramadol 50 MG ˝ Tab 2X a day
She was terrible last night, she peed on herself 2 times and was up all night panting in pain even with the pain meds.
Today she perked up. She was able to jump up on the couch. She did not use the ramp we borrowed for her to get up on the couch and bed. She is very bloated from the fluid and her huge liver. She did eat dinner tonight, but not breakfast.
Right now as I write this she is panting in pain again. This is very hard to take.
Do you really think that her liver can repair itself? The vet said it is HUGE in the xray.
Thanks for the advice and info.
Roxy's mom,
Maria |
yes the liver can repair itself - you cannot use sam-e as your dog is on tramadol and tramadol and sam-e cannot be used together and sam-e is used in helping support the liver but you can use milk thistle and i highly recommend that. Also juice zucchini and celery together (organic) and poor on her food and put pulp on top of food as well. Zucchini cleanses the liver and celery cleanses the urinary tract. My friend did this when her bull mastiff had high liver values after eating a toxic plant and the numbers went down drastically.
info on mixing tramadol and sam-e
Tramadol
please join the liver shunt group as i learned a ton when my dd was diagnosed with mvd so i am very familiar and these ladies know alot about liver and are amazing.
Sadly your vet should have had your dog on milk thistle, zucchini juicing the whole time on pheno if he knew it affected the liver
and sam-e before the tramadol so he could have had on denomarin which is milk thistle and sam-e
it is safe and would have helped not to be in this position. Now with the tramadol you need to give pain relief so ditch the sam-e
until the pain is subsided then when stopping tramadol give sam-e but i do think you can turn this around.
Also feed dr dodds liver cleansing diet as well as this will help to ease the liver and easier to digest this food as well - we personally see her and she is a amazing - if you need to email her at
hemopet@hotmail.com let her know that debbie and dee dee referred you and have her review all the blood work and advise you as well --I trust her completely and she is there day or night to help you - truly an amazing woman. She has studied blood work for 42 years and knows her stuff