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Originally Posted by yorkiekist HMMMMMMMMMM. In fact I really havent seen ANY facts pertaining to the parti except hear-say. Its always "I have been told by so and so" or "I have a copy of a letter to someone about the extensive investigation", or " many old time breeders including the Wildweir twins said this , that and the other thing". So which twin said what? Somehow all things posted only point to Nikko, who is known for selling their dogs, even their SHOW stock without breeder contracts.
(by the way, I talked to Nikko way back when they were showing Johnny)
So I have to ask, WHY ALL THE SECRETS!!! You are condemming the show people for doing the exact same thing that you are doing. |
I'm sorry, I don't understand you're question "WHY ALL THE SECRETS!!!" What secrets do you think we're keeping?
Parti breeders are not condeming show people but it seems that some people feel show breeders are the only reputable breeder and that they can do no wrong. We are only trying to point out that they are just as human as the rest of us and they often have secrets, even though many would like to think otherwise.
A year or so ago you (general you, not you personally) said the parti breeders had no proof about when or where the parti gene came from. You've said that No dog that carried the parti gene was used to begin this breed, or that No reputable show breeder has ever produced a parti, or that No show breeder would keep quiet or kill non standard puppies. We have since presented information, documentation and scientific reasoning that disputes your claims. Exactly what would you like us to present that will convince you that parti and off colors have been showing up since the beginning of the breed or show you that reputable breeders have produced off colors in their litters?
Joan Gordon according to Florence Males (AKC investigator/Judge), was the Wildweir twin who spoke with AKC.
As for hearsay, the whole early yorkshire terrier history is based on hearsay. Stories passed on by word of mouth, since in the beginning of the breed there was no documented pedigree information. These dogs, who founded this breed, had unknown heritage - they may have been the right color but may have carried a smorgasbord of additional recessive genes for other colors.