[Bhikku]

Ceser dogs are in full shut down and do not think anything but what that man puts in thier heads and that is a fact. There is no joy ,no exprestions and no love and no lights on in any of those dogs they just are a piece of fluff that is soulless.

I have not seen any dog he's worked with that looked like a soulless piece of fluff.

You can teach it to chew things other then you by being nice to it and just cause it chewing on someone does not mean it is aggression. Aggression is an attack it not just rough play and I not sure the poster or you would know the differnts.

I take offense to that. I've worked with dogs for half of my life and I most certainly do know the difference between mouthing and an aggressive attack.

As for working with dogs that are aggressive that be ME and Erin to.
I be the one trained and read up on it to do so everyone of those autors I posted in the previous post work aggresion and there is still never any need to work from rough with an aggressive dog as it only teaches them to be more rough.

If I wanted to, I could roll out a whole list of research that I've done into the subject as well, I just prefer to rely on extensive personal experience with training large, "difficult" breeds of dog.

As for phasing out treats that can and is done by ramdom reinforcement with other then food and food and rather soon after the establishing of the behaviour you want to see happen so that on randomd it becomes a firm behaviour as it never knows when or if a treat comes and it works harder longer and better for it.

Or give up and stop working for it at all.

You have not really looked into the proper use of reinforcement work and are again saying folk tails and wrong sceince.

To be blunt, you honestly don't know anything about me, and if you had read my posts thoroughly, you'd realize that I use positive reinforcement for the bulk of my training. There are just some individual dogs who call for a different approach in certain circumstances. I don't go around beating or alpha-rolling my dogs. I just don't think the alpha dog theory is bunk, and I don't think soft training always works. We just have a difference of opinion.

Have a look again at the list of autrs an the ones by Karen pryor and Melissa or pat millar will set you straight on the right way to use reinforcerers

I have an extensive list of my own authors and I think I'd prefer to continue training my dogs in my own way, but thanks. Perhaps I'll look into them at some point.