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luv my pet · 10-14-2008, 07:40 PM

Please read starting from the bottom with me emailing breeder first and let me know yout thoughts.

I am sorry for the confusion, but I did tell you they would be fine, and mentioned the knees. There is nothing wrong with their health and I do not believe I misled you about her. Vets have different opinions and mine told me 5%, I have many friends and other breeders and dont know any that actually had to have the surgery. I have never owned one that needed to have the surgery either. My contract states:

Shoshould puppy/dog be determined to be in ill health, the cause of which is clearly attributable to the Seller, or found to have a life threatening genetic illness, the dog may, upon signed written diagnosis from said veterinarian, be returned for refund of the purchase price. The Seller will assume no responsibility if this puppy/dog is not given proper veterinarian care and suffers an adverse reaction. No other guarantees are given.

I feel like I have been honest with you and gave you a very fair price, on her. If you would like to return her to me, I will find her a new home and refund your money (minus the cost of advertising( 14.00 for a weeks add)after I have found her a new home. That is the best I can do for you, and is more than my contract affords you. If you want to return her, I can check with the tech. at the vet, she was interested and I told her no because you had purchased her, but I could check again but no guarantee she might have already purchased one, there are other female available in our area for 1000. for the girls but they are not teacups.
Let me know what you want to do. She is a beautiful little dog, and to me such a small chance is really not a problem. I don't know about your insurance but mine will cover 80% of any surgery she needs in the event that the condition becomes crippling, which I have NEVER SEEN. I have been breeding dogs for over 20 years.

In a message dated 10/14/2008 7:25:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Michelleshome writes:
Hi Annie I do worry my vet told me it's a 20% chance that she will need surgery. I do know about Yorkies because I researched this breed one year before I got my first yorkie and I have had him for over a year so I do know the common heritiary traits. If your vet had looked at her and found this why did you not inform me about this? This would have actually changed my mind with her, don't get me wrong she is very cute and a good puppy but these are things that when you purchase a new yorkie that you need to look for. I love yorkies and I do look at these issues, anyone would have to because it could cause problems in the future health wise and money. My yorkie that I have now does not have that. I do remember you telling me that the mother had stage 1 and father has none but you said that the puppies where fine that they where checked by your vet. Which most of the time they should be but unfortuantly Lexi has already the issue at such a young age which that does concern me. The vet said she would run and walk just fine so it's not something that you would notice just by looking and watching her run and walk it would take a vet to confirm that. I hope you can understand my feelings about this. If both parents have this they should not be breeding because it is genically heritiary.

Thanks
Michelle

-----Original Message-----
From: annievarnadore@aol.com
To: michelleshome@aol.com
Sent: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: Lexi

I told you about that problem when you first looked at her, the knee issue is a common problem in all yorkies... that surgery is only necessary in LESS than 5% of all yorkies and even then only when they reach 10 or more years old. both my dogs have the same issue and it gives them no problems... You saw how active they both were... if they get arthritis when they are older that is easily manageable. I dont know if you remember me talking to you about the loose knee problem the first time you came out or not... I hope you can believe me when I say that surgery is most likely (95%) not going to be necessary. Also the knees are not a life threatening disease, or illness, that I caused or could have prevented. Are you not happy with her? does she exhibit any signs that she cant walk or play? I dont want you to worry about something that might be necessary in 10 years. Like I said you saw my two adults, how active and mobile they were, they both have loose knees. yes I got your fax, and my vet did look for it but as I said before this , loose knees do not pose a life threatening issue and are not and may never be even a health issue. Again please do not worry.

-----Original Message-----
From: michelleshome@aol.com
To: annievarnadore@aol.com
Sent: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: Lexi

Yes I have that. Did you get the fax? I sent that over around 5:30 today. I did also take Lexi to the vet and she does have a problem I do not know if your vet looked for it or not. Lexi has slipping knees in her back legs. The vet said that she could need surgery which will be around 1000.00 or so and possible arthritis. I am not sure how we should handle this, please let me know your thoughts. I will get something in writing and fax that to you.

10-14-2008, 07:40 PM	#1
luv my pet Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: washington Posts: 99	Please read and help Please read starting from the bottom with me emailing breeder first and let me know yout thoughts. I am sorry for the confusion, but I did tell you they would be fine, and mentioned the knees. There is nothing wrong with their health and I do not believe I misled you about her. Vets have different opinions and mine told me 5%, I have many friends and other breeders and dont know any that actually had to have the surgery. I have never owned one that needed to have the surgery either. My contract states: Shoshould puppy/dog be determined to be in ill health, the cause of which is clearly attributable to the Seller, or found to have a life threatening genetic illness, the dog may, upon signed written diagnosis from said veterinarian, be returned for refund of the purchase price. The Seller will assume no responsibility if this puppy/dog is not given proper veterinarian care and suffers an adverse reaction. No other guarantees are given. I feel like I have been honest with you and gave you a very fair price, on her. If you would like to return her to me, I will find her a new home and refund your money (minus the cost of advertising( 14.00 for a weeks add)after I have found her a new home. That is the best I can do for you, and is more than my contract affords you. If you want to return her, I can check with the tech. at the vet, she was interested and I told her no because you had purchased her, but I could check again but no guarantee she might have already purchased one, there are other female available in our area for 1000. for the girls but they are not teacups. Let me know what you want to do. She is a beautiful little dog, and to me such a small chance is really not a problem. I don't know about your insurance but mine will cover 80% of any surgery she needs in the event that the condition becomes crippling, which I have NEVER SEEN. I have been breeding dogs for over 20 years. In a message dated 10/14/2008 7:25:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Michelleshome writes: Hi Annie I do worry my vet told me it's a 20% chance that she will need surgery. I do know about Yorkies because I researched this breed one year before I got my first yorkie and I have had him for over a year so I do know the common heritiary traits. If your vet had looked at her and found this why did you not inform me about this? This would have actually changed my mind with her, don't get me wrong she is very cute and a good puppy but these are things that when you purchase a new yorkie that you need to look for. I love yorkies and I do look at these issues, anyone would have to because it could cause problems in the future health wise and money. My yorkie that I have now does not have that. I do remember you telling me that the mother had stage 1 and father has none but you said that the puppies where fine that they where checked by your vet. Which most of the time they should be but unfortuantly Lexi has already the issue at such a young age which that does concern me. The vet said she would run and walk just fine so it's not something that you would notice just by looking and watching her run and walk it would take a vet to confirm that. I hope you can understand my feelings about this. If both parents have this they should not be breeding because it is genically heritiary. Thanks Michelle -----Original Message----- From: annievarnadore@aol.com To: michelleshome@aol.com Sent: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 3:12 pm Subject: Re: Lexi I told you about that problem when you first looked at her, the knee issue is a common problem in all yorkies... that surgery is only necessary in LESS than 5% of all yorkies and even then only when they reach 10 or more years old. both my dogs have the same issue and it gives them no problems... You saw how active they both were... if they get arthritis when they are older that is easily manageable. I dont know if you remember me talking to you about the loose knee problem the first time you came out or not... I hope you can believe me when I say that surgery is most likely (95%) not going to be necessary. Also the knees are not a life threatening disease, or illness, that I caused or could have prevented. Are you not happy with her? does she exhibit any signs that she cant walk or play? I dont want you to worry about something that might be necessary in 10 years. Like I said you saw my two adults, how active and mobile they were, they both have loose knees. yes I got your fax, and my vet did look for it but as I said before this , loose knees do not pose a life threatening issue and are not and may never be even a health issue. Again please do not worry. -----Original Message----- From: michelleshome@aol.com To: annievarnadore@aol.com Sent: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 8:14 pm Subject: Re: Lexi Yes I have that. Did you get the fax? I sent that over around 5:30 today. I did also take Lexi to the vet and she does have a problem I do not know if your vet looked for it or not. Lexi has slipping knees in her back legs. The vet said that she could need surgery which will be around 1000.00 or so and possible arthritis. I am not sure how we should handle this, please let me know your thoughts. I will get something in writing and fax that to you. __________________ Chewys Mom Proud member of "The Gentlemen's Club"