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Originally Posted by yorkieisme  Puppymill people are very bright and that is how they are able to get away with most stuff that they do. EVIL is a bad word in my house.
I don't think she really came off as bragging about her accomplishments, I think that was the way she was trying to defend herself, by stating "if I do this how come my dogs are winning in shows". I would find it very hard to put a yorkie in a show coat and throw them in cage when ever they come back from showing.
Now here is the question to show breeders, do you still take the "reward" if you sold the dog to a show home, and is it true you are not the one rewarded unless you bred for three generation than you have the right to "brag"? This part I am really confused on. |
Your last paragraph is an excellent question and I would like to respond with my experience of what reputable breeders have taught me over the years and I have come to understand and embrace the concept.
I have been showing and breeding yorkies since 1995 that makes it more than 10 years. In that time, I have not had very many litters and still managed to produce some nice show dogs that I have kept and shown myself to their championship.
In the process, I have won the trust of reputable breeders and have no problem either buy a show dog from them that I can show and finish the championship or if I wish, to buy a finished Champion from them or use their male for stud if I want usually with their direction of which one they have if any that would best match my bitch for the purpose of hopefully improving what I already have.
Now, for the two dogs I have bought from elsewhere, I do not hesitate to give full credit to that breeder and I do not stud either boy to anyone without asking the original breeder first if that is okay giving the name of the breeder. In one case my friend also also contacted the breeder before the fact and got the okay from her.
The resulting litters, one of which so far has produced a very nice bitch puppy, full credit for the sire in my opinion, still goes to the original breeder, not me.
And it goes further. Any puppies these boys produce or if I have used someone else's stud, i would not sell a puppy from that litter with breeding rights without first contacting the breeder that I used their stud or bought the male from them. It goes further than that. Until I have at minimum 75-80% of my kennel name in the first 3 generations of a pedigree, I would still feel obligated to contact the breeders involved in my pedigree before I would stud a male out or sell a puppy for breeding.
Further than that, I do not stud one of my dogs with mostly my kennel name nor sell a puppy on open papers unless the other person is very well known to me and there are contracts which I expect to be followed. If i have any doubt even if it is someone who is a friend, I still will not do it.
So I guess a short answer to your question, no I do not consider i would get any kind of particular accolades for a dog I did not produce. My accolade would be for myself that a reputable show breeder trusts me with their lines and I would do it justice and take pride in that. If I would choose to campaign that dog, ie show it as a specials dog for the year for top toy or top Yorkie, to me, the credit would be to the breeder no me, I did not produce it.
My purpose for buying a dog or using a certain male for stud is purely for the sake of producing even better than what I have, not for accolades for me. i do not see my dogs as something that makes me a great person, I just happen to be lucky enough to have them and have won the trust of great show breeders willing to teach me because I WAS WILLING TO LISTEN TO THEM and am not in this to boost my ego or to make money.
I will never knowingly betray that trust allocated me by reputable show breeders.
And by the way, I have never sold a show dog or one for breeding purposes under any circumstances because i do not want to, I do not breed enough to produce more than what I want for myself and I pick the best the rest go as a wonderful pet to pet homes, and i really feel until I really am producing yorkies with a lot of my own kennel name, I have not EARNED the right to sell show dogs. So be careful of where you are buying your show/breeding dogs, it should be from someone who has been in this longer than 10 years and look at what they have shown and championed themselves of their own kennel name along with the pedigree.
If someone wants a dog from me, I woudl want that they want my kennel name not the well known champion lines kennel names of the dogs behind mine which I see happening so often and that trust given by the well known show breeder has broken down. If you are after a certain kennel name, go to that breeder.