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Yorkie_Loverz · 09-20-2008, 09:20 AM

and this was my reply

Ok go ahead and turn things around Stormy. I did tell you I would let what you did to me be known which I in fact intend to do. You yelled at me for calling the breeder and didn't let me speak. You made me feel like dirt and I don't wish this kind of treatment not even to my worst enemy that's the reason I will tell my story. I did call Stephanie back and she told me I did nothing wrong by calling her she actually said she should have been the first one to call to get an opinion from to begin with. I did not go behind your back and didn't even imagine you would yell at me like you did. Yes you do know Candy and as described by you..... " No she is not a shy or nervous little girl. She loves to play,but also loves to be held and cuddled."
Your words Stormy. your reaction to me calling Stephanie really proves children are not the real issue here. I thought I was doing something good, getting advice from her BREEDER, the woman that knows her personality due to having generations of her family. Why would you get so mad you were the one that told me to get second opinions didn't you??.....Did you call the other breeders? If so what were they able to tell you. Most reputable breeders will tell you that a breeder knows her dogs and places them in homes that best fit their personalities. I know you are upset and I don't blame you.
Again your words Stormy. I didn't go behind your back as you yelled at me. I called you right after I hung up with her to give you the advice she had given me. Call her she will tell you I didn't say a bad thing about anything just asked her for her opinion in return I get yelled at and you didn't even give me a chance to tell you what she thought, shows how much you care. Instead of listening to what I had to say you yell at me and tell me I am getting my deposit back...that kind of treatment is why I told you that you would be reported, if hearing me cry like a child while I said that sounded like a threat well that's your conscious Stormy.

About my husband you waited a bit over a month to tell me this concern to which I replied.....
Stormy you well know that the reason I had kept it from my husband was because of money not because I am unsure how he is going to react. We are both on the same page about getting a puppy but he said we should wait until he was already working right. I also told you that you were welcome to speak to him after I had to tell him because he heard me crying like crazy over this. My husband might come home tomorrow and you are welcome to speak to him if that will help you be more at peace about that issue.

Ok you mention my kids and you not wanting to sell to someone with kids but in fact you took my deposit knowing I had 2 children which you "supposedly" heard screaming in the background. That alone is a lie because if you would have heard them screaming I am sure you would have told me this 1 1/2 months ago. When I told you my children were great with dogs I did not lie Stormy, I don't understand why you bring this up... wait I do, you want to excuse the treatment I was given. Plus your puppy find ad never mentioned no children like other breeders put on there. I never denied having children not once.... "which you said your children were great with dogs" so how was I being dishonest Stormy even if you had heard them (which you didn't) what does that have to do with them not being great with dogs??? You state I told you I had children right. That's great that she is social I have two kids, don't worry they grew up with my Chihuahua who just a month ago passed away of old age (13 yrs old) I wrote that to you July 28 so you were well aware that I have children and this is the reply I got.....
Her parents are Ch Gamblin on Destiny and her mom is paris with also a great pedigree. I will send her pedigrees to you. No she is not a shy or nervous little girl. She loves to play,but also loves to be held and cuddled. She is potty pad trained,as I live in Michigan and it is pretty tough to potty train the pups when the snow is still falling till mid spring. I am in no hurry to sell her,as she has taken a piece of my heart that's for sure. She has been loved and spoiled by me and my family and I want her to go to the same kind of home as of which she came. She has never been caged and I do not intend on sending her to anybody that plans on doing so. Like I said she is just a little lover and I will keep her until I feel the right family comes along. If you would like to call me with anymore questions feel free to do so,as I feel that you can get a lot more from a conversation with someone than e-mailing people you don't know. Here is my phone numbers.
734-946-1046 Home
313-485-1046 Cell.
Have a nice day and look forward to speaking to you.

Stormy Hayes
Never did you mention children there, If it worried you so much I would have thought you would mention it right up front.

Than you tell me there is a large German shepherd at your house of which I hear in the background. If anyone hear has been dishonest Myra,it has been you!! ok this statement is weird, you yourself state that I told you about the German Shepard (not large that was added by you) so how in the world is this being dishonest Stormy, please explain as I am lost lol.

What also bothered me which I mentioned to you was shipping. After days of you not being able to get a hold of Michelle I asked you to ship her cargo through Continental because they are safe and climate controlled........... I had taken the shipping ad off of puppyfind the day before you called because Michelle told me that flight's had went up. I told you that when you called.. not after you sent a deposit. Other breeders may be fine with shipping their puppies,but I have had a couple of problems before doing so like I explained to you.. and will not do it again unless they are hand delivered. NO EXCEPTIONS!! Stormy cargo shipping was what was first discussed and like I told you. Her original price was $2800 shipping included, once shipping was taken off her price was $2650. Hand delivered for $175 SURE nobody has ever charged that. I asked and before prices went up it used to be $300 now it's $350. Oh and about the NO EXCEPTIONS part, why would you be calling Continental to see what their shipping prices are so you can ship the male biewer like you mentioned yesterday night??? So I am now sure you just went back on your word and hurt my son and myself ......end of story.

I would appreciate my deposit be sent through Money Gram as soon as possible and would also like the $35 I paid to send it to you refunded too as I am not the one that backed out, you did. My full name and address is on the money gram and Zuniga is not on there at all (another lie as it is right here in front of me now) but I don't want it shipped, I want to receive it in a timely matter just as you did. I too have all the e-mails Stormy so no worries. I have the one from Tuesday that everybody that has read it says that you had decided to send her to me then backed out again. Read it and see for yourself. This has to be one of the most stressful situations I have been in. NO breeder should be allowed to treat a person like you have treated me today, the only thing that made me feel better was my conversation with Stephanie after wards!!!! Oh and I did not threaten to ruin your reputation, I told you I will tell anybody and everybody about this, if that ruins your reputation then you must have done something bad don't you think?? I will not lie about anything if that's what you are insinuating I will do. I hope you don't hurt anybody else like you have done to me.

Myra

After that e-mail I got this

Myra,

I will send your deposit back to you in form of a Cashier Check and require an address of where you want it sent. You chose to send me the deposit through a money gram. You could have sent a postal money order or a cashiers check and because you chose to pay more money to send your deposit I am supposed to reimburse you the $35.00 you chose to pay. You wanted to put a deposit on candy as quick as possible,all I told you was that some people like to send their money through Walmart's money gram so their money gets there quicker. You were the one that had the choice,in fact.. you were going to send the money western union and I just suggested you send it through walmart as I heard they were much cheaper. I do not have time or the energy to play these child like games with you. So I would appreciate you sending me an address of where you want this money to go. I will send the money in the mail where you have to sign for it and than I will have a recipt that show's you received your money.

Stormy.

I didn't know that by sending her that reply defending myself using her words from e-mails I have was playing child games. Very hurtful woman. Where else besides here and puppy find can I post about this. I don't want her to hurt anybody else. If I thought she was truthful about everything I would let it go, but since I do not beleive that as other breeders that I have spoke to don't either I think I should warn other potential buyers.

09-20-2008, 09:20 AM	#44
Yorkie_Loverz Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 30	and this was my reply Ok go ahead and turn things around Stormy. I did tell you I would let what you did to me be known which I in fact intend to do. You yelled at me for calling the breeder and didn't let me speak. You made me feel like dirt and I don't wish this kind of treatment not even to my worst enemy that's the reason I will tell my story. I did call Stephanie back and she told me I did nothing wrong by calling her she actually said she should have been the first one to call to get an opinion from to begin with. I did not go behind your back and didn't even imagine you would yell at me like you did. Yes you do know Candy and as described by you..... " No she is not a shy or nervous little girl. She loves to play,but also loves to be held and cuddled." Your words Stormy. your reaction to me calling Stephanie really proves children are not the real issue here. I thought I was doing something good, getting advice from her BREEDER, the woman that knows her personality due to having generations of her family. Why would you get so mad you were the one that told me to get second opinions didn't you??.....Did you call the other breeders? If so what were they able to tell you. Most reputable breeders will tell you that a breeder knows her dogs and places them in homes that best fit their personalities. I know you are upset and I don't blame you. Again your words Stormy. I didn't go behind your back as you yelled at me. I called you right after I hung up with her to give you the advice she had given me. Call her she will tell you I didn't say a bad thing about anything just asked her for her opinion in return I get yelled at and you didn't even give me a chance to tell you what she thought, shows how much you care. Instead of listening to what I had to say you yell at me and tell me I am getting my deposit back...that kind of treatment is why I told you that you would be reported, if hearing me cry like a child while I said that sounded like a threat well that's your conscious Stormy. About my husband you waited a bit over a month to tell me this concern to which I replied..... Stormy you well know that the reason I had kept it from my husband was because of money not because I am unsure how he is going to react. We are both on the same page about getting a puppy but he said we should wait until he was already working right. I also told you that you were welcome to speak to him after I had to tell him because he heard me crying like crazy over this. My husband might come home tomorrow and you are welcome to speak to him if that will help you be more at peace about that issue. Ok you mention my kids and you not wanting to sell to someone with kids but in fact you took my deposit knowing I had 2 children which you "supposedly" heard screaming in the background. That alone is a lie because if you would have heard them screaming I am sure you would have told me this 1 1/2 months ago. When I told you my children were great with dogs I did not lie Stormy, I don't understand why you bring this up... wait I do, you want to excuse the treatment I was given. Plus your puppy find ad never mentioned no children like other breeders put on there. I never denied having children not once.... "which you said your children were great with dogs" so how was I being dishonest Stormy even if you had heard them (which you didn't) what does that have to do with them not being great with dogs??? You state I told you I had children right. That's great that she is social I have two kids, don't worry they grew up with my Chihuahua who just a month ago passed away of old age (13 yrs old) I wrote that to you July 28 so you were well aware that I have children and this is the reply I got..... Her parents are Ch Gamblin on Destiny and her mom is paris with also a great pedigree. I will send her pedigrees to you. No she is not a shy or nervous little girl. She loves to play,but also loves to be held and cuddled. She is potty pad trained,as I live in Michigan and it is pretty tough to potty train the pups when the snow is still falling till mid spring. I am in no hurry to sell her,as she has taken a piece of my heart that's for sure. She has been loved and spoiled by me and my family and I want her to go to the same kind of home as of which she came. She has never been caged and I do not intend on sending her to anybody that plans on doing so. Like I said she is just a little lover and I will keep her until I feel the right family comes along. If you would like to call me with anymore questions feel free to do so,as I feel that you can get a lot more from a conversation with someone than e-mailing people you don't know. Here is my phone numbers. 734-946-1046 Home 313-485-1046 Cell. Have a nice day and look forward to speaking to you. Stormy Hayes Never did you mention children there, If it worried you so much I would have thought you would mention it right up front. Than you tell me there is a large German shepherd at your house of which I hear in the background. If anyone hear has been dishonest Myra,it has been you!! ok this statement is weird, you yourself state that I told you about the German Shepard (not large that was added by you) so how in the world is this being dishonest Stormy, please explain as I am lost lol. What also bothered me which I mentioned to you was shipping. After days of you not being able to get a hold of Michelle I asked you to ship her cargo through Continental because they are safe and climate controlled........... I had taken the shipping ad off of puppyfind the day before you called because Michelle told me that flight's had went up. I told you that when you called.. not after you sent a deposit. Other breeders may be fine with shipping their puppies,but I have had a couple of problems before doing so like I explained to you.. and will not do it again unless they are hand delivered. NO EXCEPTIONS!! Stormy cargo shipping was what was first discussed and like I told you. Her original price was $2800 shipping included, once shipping was taken off her price was $2650. Hand delivered for $175 SURE nobody has ever charged that. I asked and before prices went up it used to be $300 now it's $350. Oh and about the NO EXCEPTIONS part, why would you be calling Continental to see what their shipping prices are so you can ship the male biewer like you mentioned yesterday night??? So I am now sure you just went back on your word and hurt my son and myself ......end of story. I would appreciate my deposit be sent through Money Gram as soon as possible and would also like the $35 I paid to send it to you refunded too as I am not the one that backed out, you did. My full name and address is on the money gram and Zuniga is not on there at all (another lie as it is right here in front of me now) but I don't want it shipped, I want to receive it in a timely matter just as you did. I too have all the e-mails Stormy so no worries. I have the one from Tuesday that everybody that has read it says that you had decided to send her to me then backed out again. Read it and see for yourself. This has to be one of the most stressful situations I have been in. NO breeder should be allowed to treat a person like you have treated me today, the only thing that made me feel better was my conversation with Stephanie after wards!!!! Oh and I did not threaten to ruin your reputation, I told you I will tell anybody and everybody about this, if that ruins your reputation then you must have done something bad don't you think?? I will not lie about anything if that's what you are insinuating I will do. I hope you don't hurt anybody else like you have done to me. Myra After that e-mail I got this Myra, I will send your deposit back to you in form of a Cashier Check and require an address of where you want it sent. You chose to send me the deposit through a money gram. You could have sent a postal money order or a cashiers check and because you chose to pay more money to send your deposit I am supposed to reimburse you the $35.00 you chose to pay. You wanted to put a deposit on candy as quick as possible,all I told you was that some people like to send their money through Walmart's money gram so their money gets there quicker. You were the one that had the choice,in fact.. you were going to send the money western union and I just suggested you send it through walmart as I heard they were much cheaper. I do not have time or the energy to play these child like games with you. So I would appreciate you sending me an address of where you want this money to go. I will send the money in the mail where you have to sign for it and than I will have a recipt that show's you received your money. Stormy. I didn't know that by sending her that reply defending myself using her words from e-mails I have was playing child games. Very hurtful woman. Where else besides here and puppy find can I post about this. I don't want her to hurt anybody else. If I thought she was truthful about everything I would let it go, but since I do not beleive that as other breeders that I have spoke to don't either I think I should warn other potential buyers.