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Originally Posted by Pruett  Jan
We have always considered it a breed of it's own also.
Where did you receive the information that the breed has bred true for 20 years?
Birgit Rosner used Splitters, so why is it an impeccable blood line when your club owns the dog and if someone else owns the same line, it's a mix?
Did you know ~ that Mrs. Biewer is well aware of the breeders that used other breeds in their breeding programs?
Did you know ~ Mr. Biewer was breeding HIS Yorkies back to HIS Biewers until he died.
Did you know ~ Sissy's mother is a Yorkie.
Did you know ~ that the Biewer's had a problem with the dogs washing out?
Do you know how the Biewer's retified the problem.
How do you get 2 colors allowable in the head, to
The problem is with people not being able to read. That statement is a prime example. 2 colors allowable is a far cry from any and all coloration.
Jan why is the standard written by 2 Mi Ki breeders any better than the standard written by experienced Yorkie, and Biewer breeders?
Do you think you can get your club to measure all their dogs, detail the ear set and hair texture and share the results please? You already have the results on about 80 dogs that we performed this little study on. I think this would be something that needs to be documented closely as we perfect the breed.
I don't think I ever said there weren't others doing this. One thing people have to realize, is that the so many of the pedigrees are false, so all the research is the world is not going to help. Don't think for one minute that all your pedigreees are true.
I have asked for the results of the major research Sue has done on the piebald gene and who she is working with, only to be totally ignored.
If I never answered your questions, what would you think?
I can tell you what you'd would think, and that is that I was lying, and that I'm not answering because I'm not doing what I claim.
The biggest problem is people claiming to do things they aren't.
People misinterpreting what's being said.
People listening to lies and rumors without asking for proof.
People out right lying about other people.
I sincerely believe that most the people in the clubs are doing what they think is best for the breed. |
I did not state that the breed has been breeding true for 20 years, I did however, say that the breed has been on the ground for over 20 years. As with any canine group you will have those working to perfect the breed, and those who will breed willy nilly with other breeds.
I do not doubt that the Biewers bred Yorkshire Terriers into the firstBiewers to help establish the breed. So your really barking up the wrong tree here, I am not out for public debate.
My goal is to better my own program, and show my dogs in conformation. I personally have chosen to show under a standard which calls for a Tri( three colored head) That being said. the venues in which i show under call for a Tri ( Three colored head)This is my prefrence.
The standard that your club has written..
* Taken from your Biewer Terrier Standard* includes
Head coloring is (Blue/Black, White, Gold/Tan); (Blue/Black, Gold/Tan); (Gold/Tan, White) in good symmetry.
In my personal opinion... this pretty much includes any and all possible head color variations.Again... my opinion
Many breeders that I know, and have had the privliage of meeting at the shows feel very adamant about a three colored head.
You now have ARBA who has accepted your standard in which to show your dogs. So I don't really see what the problem is.
We will have to respectfully agree to disagree on the standard.
Jan Prosser
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