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EnchantedToi · 06-08-2008, 05:13 PM

When following some of the History of the Breed it has always been suggested that the same dogs in America that produced (parti) coloration yorkies ,came from the same kennel of the dogs that the Biewers bred. So we will assume that as previously stated the offspring produced were from two Yorkies out of this Kennel. As the pedigrees state.

Is it possible that another breed was introduced at the originating Streamglen kennel?
Or somewhere else along the line? Well of course it is possible. We all know that the pedigree is only as honest as the person writing it.

My personal preference in my own breeding program is only to refer to the term "yorkshire" when discussing the past history of the breed. But I do know that after more than 20 years the Biewer is Breeding true. I would love to see this breed flourish on its own as it has been doing since 2003.
When it comes down to the name, I will always appreciate the original German heritage of the Biewer. However, beyond that I believe it has had over 20 years to evolve and is continuing to breed true.
Unless of course you take into consideration that some are still advertising and breeding "splitters" for sale. If the Biewer is a breed of its own, why oh why are others still mixing breeds and breeding and advertising splitters!!!
( ok I'm getting off topic)deep breath.

If you look at many of the companion Toy Breeds many in the History will tell you what the breed was originally bred for. ie; ratting etc.With the Maltese it was bred for companionship nothing more. The Biewer is a
The Group Terrier to me personally, and with the research I have done.
Terriers are those bred to go to ground after vermin and other small game.

AKC Breeds by Group
Terrier Group

People familiar with this Group invariably comment on the distinctive terrier personality. These are feisty, energetic dogs whose sizes range from fairly small, as in the Norfolk, Cairn or West Highland White Terrier, to the grand Airedale Terrier. Terriers typically have little tolerance for other animals, including other dogs. Their ancestors were bred to hunt and kill vermin. Many continue to project the attitude that they're always eager for a spirited argument. Most terriers have wiry coats that require special grooming known as stripping in order to maintain a characteristic appearance. In general, they make engaging pets, but require owners with the determination to match their dogs' lively characters.

Mr and Mrs Biewer bred this off colored dogs for companionship .
I myself have chosen to refer to the Breed as singularly Biewer.............. It may have come from an original breeding of two Yorkshire's originally, but after many years of breeding we know that these dogs are breeding true. So i refere to the dog as Biewer...this helps keep us distinct from The Yorkshire's and the Term Terrier do's not fit.........as the Biewers were never bred as gaming and vermin dogs.They were bred for companion and color.
So to answer the original posters question........... I have a Biewer!

Columbia Encyclopedia
Terrier, classification used by breeders and kennel clubs to designate dogs originally bred to start small game and vermin from their burrows or, in the case of several breeds in this group, to go to earth and kill their prey. Today these dogs are raised chiefly as pets. The following breeds are classified as terrirers by the American Kennel Club: airedale terrier, Australian terrier; Bedlington terrier; border terrier; bull terrier; cairn terrier; Dandie Dinmont terrier; fox terrier; Irish terrier; Kerry blue terrier; Lakeland terrier; Manchester terrier; schnauzer (miniature); Norwich terrier; Scottish terrier; Sealyham terrier; Skye terrier; Staffordshire terrier; Welsh terrier; and West Highland white terrier. See dog.

Main Entry:
ter·ri·er
Pronunciation:
\ˈter-ē-ər, ˈte-rē-\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English terryer, terrer, from Anglo-French (chen) terrer, literally, earth dog, from terre earth, from Latin terra
Date:
15th century
: any of various usually small energetic dogs originally used by hunters to dig for small game and engage the quarry underground or drive it out

thoughts and opinions of one person
Jan

06-08-2008, 05:13 PM	#37
EnchantedToi Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 218	When following some of the History of the Breed it has always been suggested that the same dogs in America that produced (parti) coloration yorkies ,came from the same kennel of the dogs that the Biewers bred. So we will assume that as previously stated the offspring produced were from two Yorkies out of this Kennel. As the pedigrees state. Is it possible that another breed was introduced at the originating Streamglen kennel? Or somewhere else along the line? Well of course it is possible. We all know that the pedigree is only as honest as the person writing it. My personal preference in my own breeding program is only to refer to the term "yorkshire" when discussing the past history of the breed. But I do know that after more than 20 years the Biewer is Breeding true. I would love to see this breed flourish on its own as it has been doing since 2003. When it comes down to the name, I will always appreciate the original German heritage of the Biewer. However, beyond that I believe it has had over 20 years to evolve and is continuing to breed true. Unless of course you take into consideration that some are still advertising and breeding "splitters" for sale. If the Biewer is a breed of its own, why oh why are others still mixing breeds and breeding and advertising splitters!!! ( ok I'm getting off topic)deep breath. If you look at many of the companion Toy Breeds many in the History will tell you what the breed was originally bred for. ie; ratting etc.With the Maltese it was bred for companionship nothing more. The Biewer is a The Group Terrier to me personally, and with the research I have done. Terriers are those bred to go to ground after vermin and other small game. AKC Breeds by Group Terrier Group People familiar with this Group invariably comment on the distinctive terrier personality. These are feisty, energetic dogs whose sizes range from fairly small, as in the Norfolk, Cairn or West Highland White Terrier, to the grand Airedale Terrier. Terriers typically have little tolerance for other animals, including other dogs. Their ancestors were bred to hunt and kill vermin. Many continue to project the attitude that they're always eager for a spirited argument. Most terriers have wiry coats that require special grooming known as stripping in order to maintain a characteristic appearance. In general, they make engaging pets, but require owners with the determination to match their dogs' lively characters. Mr and Mrs Biewer bred this off colored dogs for companionship . I myself have chosen to refer to the Breed as singularly Biewer.............. It may have come from an original breeding of two Yorkshire's originally, but after many years of breeding we know that these dogs are breeding true. So i refere to the dog as Biewer...this helps keep us distinct from The Yorkshire's and the Term Terrier do's not fit.........as the Biewers were never bred as gaming and vermin dogs.They were bred for companion and color. So to answer the original posters question........... I have a Biewer! Columbia Encyclopedia Terrier, classification used by breeders and kennel clubs to designate dogs originally bred to start small game and vermin from their burrows or, in the case of several breeds in this group, to go to earth and kill their prey. Today these dogs are raised chiefly as pets. The following breeds are classified as terrirers by the American Kennel Club: airedale terrier, Australian terrier; Bedlington terrier; border terrier; bull terrier; cairn terrier; Dandie Dinmont terrier; fox terrier; Irish terrier; Kerry blue terrier; Lakeland terrier; Manchester terrier; schnauzer (miniature); Norwich terrier; Scottish terrier; Sealyham terrier; Skye terrier; Staffordshire terrier; Welsh terrier; and West Highland white terrier. See dog. Main Entry: ter·ri·er Pronunciation: \ˈter-ē-ər, ˈte-rē-\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English terryer, terrer, from Anglo-French (chen) terrer, literally, earth dog, from terre earth, from Latin terra Date: 15th century : any of various usually small energetic dogs originally used by hunters to dig for small game and engage the quarry underground or drive it out thoughts and opinions of one person Jan __________________ Jan www.enchantedbiewers.com "Be cautious of the breeder who has nothing good to say about anyone!"