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YorkieRose · 05-19-2008, 03:54 PM

I honestly will not tell people not to breed if they have an excellent bitch, from a top of the line pedigree. There are 7 dogs represented in the first 3 generations of a pedigree...the dog is one, parents two and grandparents three. These are the dogs who must IMO be champions..not 4 or 5 gens back.
...I know not all champions are quality...but when I started out none in 3 gens rarely ever gave me anything of quality...or standard bred...it certainly gave me no breed quality studs..

I do not believe a breeder must show..but I do believe they must do everything else a show breeder does, buy the same quality breeding dogs, use excellent studs (no pet quality studs)).....attend shows, become friends with show breeders to be mentored, learn pedigrees, learn and improve yearly.

I thought I was doing great at first, then I started going to shows, meeting breeders, learning quality..POW..guess what, it hit me like a ton of bicks..I was not producing the best I could..so I started over...reproducing average pets is not my goal, never has been..I have not found a way to do it without being close to the ring..heck, people did not say more then "Hi and bye" to me for awhile, who cared..I was there to watch the Yorkies move, learn structure, coats, color, everything...perhaps, some can learn these things from the Internet or books...not me..I need to see and have a hands on, you can not feel proper coat texture from a photo..movement and structure is lost in a book....breeders take notice of the serious fancier and it does take too long to be accepted and helped...
Sorry, I went on too long...I could say so much more...

PS..one last thing..it makes me want to scream at the top of my lungs when a breeder says..."I do not breed show dogs, just pets, so these things are not important"...GRRRRRRRRRRRR...breeding to the standard as closely as possible and to improve is the only ethical reason to breed IMO..we owe it to the breed we love so much...why short change them?

05-19-2008, 03:54 PM	#33
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	breeding I honestly will not tell people not to breed if they have an excellent bitch, from a top of the line pedigree. There are 7 dogs represented in the first 3 generations of a pedigree...the dog is one, parents two and grandparents three. These are the dogs who must IMO be champions..not 4 or 5 gens back. ...I know not all champions are quality...but when I started out none in 3 gens rarely ever gave me anything of quality...or standard bred...it certainly gave me no breed quality studs.. I do not believe a breeder must show..but I do believe they must do everything else a show breeder does, buy the same quality breeding dogs, use excellent studs (no pet quality studs)).....attend shows, become friends with show breeders to be mentored, learn pedigrees, learn and improve yearly. I thought I was doing great at first, then I started going to shows, meeting breeders, learning quality..POW..guess what, it hit me like a ton of bicks..I was not producing the best I could..so I started over...reproducing average pets is not my goal, never has been..I have not found a way to do it without being close to the ring..heck, people did not say more then "Hi and bye" to me for awhile, who cared..I was there to watch the Yorkies move, learn structure, coats, color, everything...perhaps, some can learn these things from the Internet or books...not me..I need to see and have a hands on, you can not feel proper coat texture from a photo..movement and structure is lost in a book....breeders take notice of the serious fancier and it does take too long to be accepted and helped... Sorry, I went on too long...I could say so much more... PS..one last thing..it makes me want to scream at the top of my lungs when a breeder says..."I do not breed show dogs, just pets, so these things are not important"...GRRRRRRRRRRRR...breeding to the standard as closely as possible and to improve is the only ethical reason to breed IMO..we owe it to the breed we love so much...why short change them?