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Old 04-24-2008, 06:00 AM   #71
satman
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You're not rude at all. From the reports I've received from those that have dealt with Denise she charges upwards of $3500.00 for a puppy without AKC papers and she generally asks for CASH.

There is validity to "Champion Sired" pups but a Yorkie should never be referred to as a TEACUP. As for "Coby Bodied", that term isn't found in the standard as set forth by the YTCA or the AKC for this breed.

You also have to define "Champion Sired"! How many generations ago were the certified "Champion" introduced? Did the breeding program stay consistantly with Champions or did it stray off to unknown parentage? And finally what agency certified the dog as a Champion. Here in the USA the only group valid to certify a Champion is the AKC. There are over 15 other bogus registries that will convey the title of Champion to any dog who's owner pays a fee. Deception is pervasive when selling pups by less than honest people.

Puppymill and Brokers advertise consistently and in just about every venue as possible, because they have so many puppies to get rid of before they're too old to be considered as puppies. It's the nature of the beast and the internet hasn't helped in reducing the incidents or proliferation of puppymills, brokers or commercial breeders.

Knowing the Sire and Dam may be an advantage but even that doesn't guaranty a healthy puppy. Unfortunately some of the best known breeders have produced a puppy with Liver Shunt. It's what they did and how they handled it when they found out. That's important and separates the good breeders from the bad. The good breeders will immediately spay/neuter the pair that produced the sick puppy so as eliminate the possibility of it happening again. And more importantly they will aid the new puppy's owner with medical costs or give a full refund while allowing them to keep the puppy.

In the proper facility the recovery rate for Liver Shunt surgery is slightly over 95%. Yes, the medical costs are expensive to return the dog to health but that's the cost of owning a pet. There are many other preventable situations that bring medical costs as high or higher.

For instance, a few weeks ago my Katey chewed a plastic decoration on a topknot bow and swallowed it. It was large enough to pass down her throat but too large to exit her stomach. When she first stated vomiting we thought it was the same virus that Kcc had gone through the previous week so we gave her some fluids and Pediasure when she wouldn't eat. Eventually 5 days later she required surgery when the part showed up on an ultrasound ( it didn't show on x-ray). The cost for a week of medical care and surgery exceeded $3000.00 and was worth every penny of it to have Katey back home and healthy.

A dog with MVD can lead a fairly normal life with a normal lifespan if taken care of properly. Yes there are additional medical costs for special foods and medications but if you love the puppy you'll take on that chore to preserve the life.

As to breeding: I have several friends that are breeders. They won't even stud out their dogs for fear of who he'll be mated with. This even hold true for frozen sperm used for artificial insemination. And they'd never pair their females with a strange male.

This is in comparison to the pet owner with a female that will mate her to any male capable of "Getting it done", or just the opposite. I could relate tragic stories that occur when this is done just for the possibility of the dollars returned from any resulting puppies. For those interested just email me privately and I'll send you several stories that would turn your stomach and they are all true. They are far to long to post here.

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Originally Posted by CricketBaby View Post
Hi....I am not interested in one of Denise Ronayne's puppies but I was curious if you all know how much she charges for her puppies? I have seen so many breeders all across the board who have "teacup" "champion sired" "coby bodied" and the list goes on....but I have never seen a breeder who advertises as much as Denise Ronayne does about her home. Wouldn't it be more important to know the history behind the sire and dam and so forth? I realize all Yorkies are prone to certain health issues but by selective breeding we can certainly avoid disastrous results! I got my little boy disastrous from Glenda Beavers and feel very confident that the up most care was taken when his parents breeding took place. I am so sad that someone would breed two Yorkies because they want to produce pets and make a few bucks and not worry about the outcome. Unfortunately not every pet owner sticks by their pet through thick and thin ...when vet bills skyrocket and there are no answers in sight heatbreak happens.. This is also why we have so many animals in shelters and rescue organizations. My friend Michele here on YT was one of those unlucky people...she spent allot money buying her little girl...only to spend the next three years searching for a miracle to save her baby. Michele had to put her little Yorkie "Raven" down last month because the quality of her life was so poor. How sad for Michele and for Raven... I never realized the importance of preserving the York Breed or any Breed for that matter. It takes many years to create a beautiful representation of the breed and minutes to destroy it. I have so much respect for the breeders who truly love the Breed. I wonder if AKC will ever start requiring all Dams and Sires to be DNA tested and of course all their offspring? Seems like that might eliminate some the bad breeders out there? I hope I have not offended anyone as this was not my intent just had this on my mind.
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