wow thanks for all the support guys. i have looked at the debbie jensen website, and it really is awesome. very knowlegdable. i will definately make her an appointment to get tested for belluc... don't remember how to spell it lol and i will get my male tested as well. the vet checked them over physically and said there is no reason they shouldn't have fine puppies but will definately get them checked over more. i will surely look for those books, stop in at a Chapters and try to find them. i do have a question now that i'm thinking of it, are there any early signs that the dam will need a c-section when whelping or is it just kind of like ok, she's going into labour and no puppies are coming after a while, call the vet?
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