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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy  I agree with most of this. No one should be sticking their head in the sand but instead researching, listening, and learning. Yes, I have seen some outright rude attacks and I believe that is very wrong and unnecessary. But many of the posts that get called "rude" or "attacks" are not that at all - they are true concern for the dogs and this breed. Breeding is a huge responsibility and not something to take lightly. Many times people come here asking for advice, and when they don't get told exactly what they want to hear, they get defensive and start calling others rude. Things need to be said so that others can learn from it and do what is best for the dogs. It's important to remember that you can't read tone so someone shouldn't automatically assume that a person is being rude.
Also, I think many people need to realize that when people post, it is not all about them. Many of us, myself included, are speaking in general when discussing breeding. No breeder our group of breeders is being singled out or being called this or that. It is all being spoken about in general. I think it is childish to continue with assumptions...if someone feels they are being singled out, maybe they should ask the poster about it instead of just assuming that they are being talked about. I don't see a problem with discussions or debates as long as no one is outright rude or personally attacking another member...differences of opinion and discussion are how we learn. Also, I think everyone can contribute to a discussion, no matter their age or personal experiences...I know many pet owners that sadly know more about this breed than most people breeding the dogs. Everyone should be open minded to whoever is posting...everyone can contribute, help educate, and be learned from.
I think we should all remember that YorkieTalk is supposed to be here for the love of the dogs. If someone is going to take on the responsibility of breeding, they should know what they are doing beforehand and know just how serious it is....you are dealing with the lives of the adults and potential puppies that may result. And you have a responsibility to this breed in general. Breeding is a privelege, not a right and should not be taken lightly. If we truly love the dogs, we look out for their best interest right? I just feel many times that a lot of people care more about not hurting anyone's feelings than the dog's life...there has to be a balance... I feel like the dog's are the silent and defensless ones though and need people to stand up for their best interest. |
It is true that breeders have a responsibility. However, when a new person comes on needing help, the simple fact is that many of them do not have the knowledge to realize the responsibility that comes with breeding. Not because they are stupid or lazy or deliberate, but because the average person (including the vets they get their instruction from) does not know it. The knowledge held by most of those on YT is not that of the average person. And when they come on here for an answer to a simple question, they instead get a host of responses about how they should not be breeding. This is not helpful, and in fact discourages them from asking anything. So the help they might have received on whelping their litter, etc.....they do not get. I cannot see how this is in the best interest of the dog.
By no means am I saying that the ethics of breeding should never be mentioned. It definitely should, otherwise these people will never be educated. However, there is a polite way of doing it that is rarely seen here.
I don't think anyone has a problem with people having concern for the dogs and breed, I have never seen anyone complain about someone showing concern. And there are indeed a great many posts which do not name names or refer to anyone individually. However, I do see a lot of scenarios like this (just a generic one here, I don't want to use anything actual):
Breeder--I choose not to bile acid test my puppies, because I don't consider the test to be accurate at such a young age.
Poster--In my personal opinion, any reputable breeder would bile acid test their puppies.
While it is true the poster is just stating their opinion, in the context it is no different than saying the breeder is not reputable. No wonder it is considered rude! How much nicer it would be to simply state their differing opinion on the testing, acknowledge that others may have a different opinion, and go on about their merry way. The poster has then educated, but in a respectful way.
And, in this spirit, I will acknowledge that others may have differing opinions.
One last thought...if a person finds that they are often interpreted as being rude, regardless of their intention, it would be the humble and courteous thing to examine their posts closely. One or two people can easily be wrong, but if a person is consistently viewed as rude by several people....could be they have a point.