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Originally Posted by diggy4  Listen this is turning into a preaching session and first you dont even know what race I am or what I live in or how I affect people. I did not say one negative thing about one person except Michael Vick. Now you need to admit he did wrong, he was given every tool in life...a hell of a ot more than I was and he chose not to use it. I am not trying to change the world I am discussing the OP and how I feel about it from my experiences. See My point was I lived in a small minded town...ALL BY MYSELF I chose to get out and be different No one raised me to do this, hell they were showing me the opposite. Please don't think I implied that the whole town came together and and the town all changed. NO it's still there still believing in small minded things. I GOT OUT. I didn't fall for the this is how it is.
Hate on top of Hate??? who is hating?? why did you say that to me?? I am the furthest thing from a hater there is. I said with no education and a product of society I would give a little understanding.....MICHAEL VICK IS NOT THAT, He has a degree from VT He played in the NFL he has seen the world, he KNOWS dog fighting is wrong. I am not taling about a child here I am talking about a man who has been given a talent we cannot even touch....he has a wealth of $$, he has a college degree, and you think he wasnt taught right????? He did a sucky thing and got caught!
You said approach it in a different manor....so the cops should have walked up and said you bad Michael...now don't do it again as they drug the rape machines out of the house and dug the dead dogs out of the shallow graves???? Common...I happen to be a VERY positive person and give all kinds of chances to people everyday. I do consider the source in every person I deal with. But I will tell you this I do not consider race when talking to a person as we are all the same in my eyes, and I DO NOT fall for "he didnt know better" when it pertains to Michael Vick.
Maybe I took your post wrong and if I did my bad....but it sounded to me like I was full of negative and thinking all wrong......Sorry I just don't think i am. |
I kinda think you missed the point. You said ur small town had one family of color, and usually back people don't refer to themselves as a family of color so assumed that the family of color wasn't yours. The first paragraph was an example of something that people do in a negative way. I made sure that i put some of the guilt of some of the people i loved as well and tell the truth, (they hate white people) so that you could see it was an example and in no way was meant to demean you.Please go back and re-read the post and see that i didnt imply anything it was an example. Someones already brought up a whole list of examples as well like:
Women's liberation
Civil rights movement
Concentration camps
Asian child mutilation
African diamond trade
American liberation from England
the Civil War
Communism
many deal with racism or cultural differences. I do the same but i am explain my examples well. Example how can people think that mutilation of a womans private parts to ensure she is a virgin is right? Well the same way men can think Dog fighting is right. My mom told me something about killing rats on her porch when she was younger like with a stick. She was bought up being strong enough mentally to catch a rat, and actually take it out on the porch with her brothers and sisters and kill it. Certain environments teach you certain things.
I need to admit Vick did wrong? Why would i need to admit he did wrong. That does nothing for me personally, nothing. He admitted he was guilty what more do you want?
One thing i think that everyone is missing is that I am not defending what Vick did I am defending the fact that he is a product of a culture that many in minority communities are aware of but very little is done to correct it until the police get involved. I am Stepping up and saying there is something that we can all do. writing negative emails about whoopi or talking crap about vick is not going to solve the problem. U can try to get whoopi in trouble or spew a few hateful words here and there about vick, but it wont solve the problem of dog fighting and animals being abused.
"If i was on the other side and was dog fighting, i wouldn't stop it and all your negative comments would fuel me into thinking i can do what i wanna do, and u cant tell me i cant.. but if you came to me in a different manor you would more of a positive effect of me and my thinking. Hate on top of hate does not make the world a better place."
^^^I had to learn that for myself. Now that I learn how young black youths react to negative feedback I cant better help them understand in a positive way. The above was not just said to u but to everyone. Two negative will never make something positive unless your dealing with something in mathematical terms.
I don't have any ill will towards anyone personally and stated that from the beginning. I am in fact debating the issue and not the poster. So please stop stressing that I feel any of you are bad people. I don't. I just have a way with words sometimes that shows my passion. I am proud of that. I rather use those words to make a difference and help than try to kick someone when they are down, or pick faults at someone when i have faults as well.