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[QUOTE=yorkiekist;1348448]Has anyone ever studied yorkie genetics? The true yorkie does not carry the piebald gene. The only way they could have gotten it was through mix breeding.(probably maltese or shih-tzu) This, no doubt, happen generations ago and would be extremely difficult to trace. [QUOTE]
Since no one has ever DNA'd the unpapered, terrier type dogs who were used to begin this breed, how can you say that the true yorkie doesn't carry the piebald gene? What makes a true yorkie true? God did not create the Yorkshire terrier, man did, by using countless numbers of dogs - dogs without pedigrees, or traceable heritage. These founding dogs had certain characteristics that their owners wanted to reproduce and improve on. I'm sure some people were more conscious about what they let their dogs breed to but I'm guessing that many of the founding dogs had the run of the land and "fell in love" with whom ever they wished.
So, if you can walk into a dog shelter and tell me the exact genetic makeup of all the unpapered dogs in that kennel, well, do you think you could also give me the winning number for the next multi million dollar lotto or tell me when we will have world peace? ;-)
[QUOTE] There was a show breeder that got piebald puppies and after thinking about it, determined there was a mix in the pedigree and had the dogs spayed and neutered. Its funny that 99.9 percent of the show breeders do not come up with color faults, and its mostly the back yard breeders that do. [QUOTE]
If the majority of the show breeders feel the way the show breeders in this thread do, than it's more likely that 99% of the show breeders won't admit when they come up with color faults.
[QUOTE] To the person who has Nikko everywhere in the pedigree: Did you personally get the dog from Gloria Lipman? I have never heard of Nikko producing odd colored puppies. I have never heard a bad thing about that kennel. Quote:
I purchased my guy through Summit Yorkies, they are one of the two california parti breeders who had numerous litters and generations of dogs, DNA'd in order for AKC to allow the parti color to be registered. Summit Yorkies had the first AKC Registered parti yorkie (from this Nikko line). My boy was promoted by Summit Yorkies when he was about 10 weeks old, he flew out to VA at 12 weeks. Looking at the copy of the registration application that I made before sending off to AKC, Breeder and Litter owners were Starla Harris and Gloria Lipman using a Mt. Israel Rd, Escondido, CA mailing address. Both ladies signed the paperwork and transfered the dog directly to me.
Though Nikkos kennels doesn't have any parti colored yorkies pictured on their website (and I don't know if she owns a parti) there are a number of photos of pups with big white chests (parti carriers).
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A breeder cannot admit to something that did not happen. I still have never had and never known any of my show breeder friends that have had a parti colour of any sort.
Dna's currently only will tell you who the parents aren't if there was an oops. It won't tell you if there was an oops further back to where the Dna samples were taken.