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Originally Posted by yorkiekist  Has anyone ever studied yorkie genetics? The true yorkie does not carry the piebald gene. The only way they could have gotten it was through mix breeding.(probably maltese or shih-tzu) This, no doubt, happen generations ago and would be extremely difficult to trace. There was a show breeder that got piebald puppies and after thinking about it, determined there was a mix in the pedigree and had the dogs spayed and neutered. Its funny that 99.9 percent of the show breeders do not come up with color faults, and its mostly the back yard breeders that do. To the person who has Nikko everywhere in the pedigree: Did you personally get the dog from Gloria Lipman? I have never heard of Nikko producing odd colored puppies. I have never heard a bad thing about that kennel. Ever hear about unethical breeders switching AKC papers before AKC Limited registration came out? That was a common occurance. And then there are the byb's with 2 or more different breeds. Oops, the male Maltese bred the Yorkie. I will register them all as Yorkies. No one will know and they will all be sold with AKC papers and breeding rights. This was a common occurence not that many years ago. And I wonder where that piebald gene came from 10 years later??? And you wonder why the show breeders wont sell puppies unless they are on AKC Limited/spay/neuter contracts. The show breedes are the ones that put their blood, sweat and tears into every litter. They were the ones footing the bill for research to battle genetic problems. The show breeders are the ones giving 100%, 24/7, 365 days per year. They are always reading and up-dating their knowlege with the only goal of betterment for the breed. The back yard breeders are only riding on the show breeders coat tails.
Boy, did I ever open a can of worms!!! Lynn |
I believe that most of us have studied the yorkie genetics. How do you know that there wasn't a piebald gene in the original yorkie makeup? There is no way to know that. True they think it possibly came from a maltese, but the yorkie was made from so many different breeds who is to say that one of those dogs did not carry the gene.
Records were spotty way back then, many of the people who bred them couldn't even read or write.
I am not sure on this but I believe that the first known parti was born to Gloria Lipmann herself. It is no secret that they came from her line.
Before the partis were accepted by the AKC, they were DNA's extensively and it was proven to their satisfaction that they did indeed come from the parents that they were said to have come freom and that those parents were purebred registered yhorkshire terriers. The line that I urchased fro are descendents of Ch Rolls Royce Ashley. He sired the firdst registered parti color Nikko's Mickey Spillane.
Now if he had not come from the Nikko line, I doubt that they would have allowed the Nikko name to be used.
It is untrue that it is mostly backyard breeders that came up with the original parti coloreds. Small hobby breeders and Byb breeders are the ones who are breeding them now, but some of the original parti coloreds came from Champion lines.
I am sure that there are many parti coloreds out there that were produced through mixed breeding, which is why one has to be extra careful when they buy them. You have to know the breeder, but that is true with traditional colored yorkies also.
I've done my home work, I know what I am talking about or I would not have taken a stand. I don't argue unless I know I am right.
It is true that the show breeders but a lot of time and money into their dogs, and I am not taking that away from them, I am only asking that they respect my right to do the same thing with my partis in an effort to further develop the dogs as a breed of their own.
My hope is to see the beautiful silky flowing coat in black and white and tan. Not all non show breeders are disreputable and irresponsible, and if they allowed us to show our dogs, then maybe we would.