Pat I think you hit the nail right on the head. I don't want to offend the original poster, but unfortunately you did say the breeder was in Iowa and the shop in Massachusetts, and it is extremely plausible that your puppy came from these kind of conditions. Not all pet stores buy from puppymills, I will give you that, but the FACT is is that you did not meet the breeder or see where your puppy came from. And we all know how easy it is for petstores to lie and tell you what you want to hear, like we've been dealing with this breeder for years and he is top notch. The point that others on YT are trying to express when we say pet shops are bad is that we are trying to dissuade people from buying from anywhere where they cannot inspect the facilities where the pup was raised themselves. Obviously we all hate puppymills, but just look at the pet shops that this woman Pat was speaking of was dealing with. They are the kind of shop you are defending, shops that DONT get their pups from puppymills but instead use private breeders. And I think we can all agree its a horrible situation. Just because a shop gets its puppies from breeders doesn't mean they are OK.
I think what the responsible breeders like Rini and Pat are so upset about with the idea of DEFENDING PETSTORES is that NO RESPONSIBLE BREEDER THAT CARED ABOUT THE FATE OF THEIR PUPPIES WOULD SELL THEM TO A PETSTORE...they would have no way of knowing where the puppy was going and would have no way of monitoring who was getting their puppy. To good breeders this concept is disgusting, and to be honest its disgusting to myself and many members here.
Marty I am very happy you got your puppy and that Saffron is healthy and has a great disposition...I just don't think we should be telling newbies who might come here looking for advice that not all petshops are bad. I think people should be hearing how to find a responsible breeder not that some petstores are ok because they buy from breeders. Breeders supplying petshops with puppies are not in the same class as responsible breeders such as Pat or Rini, and just because its not technically a "mill" doesn't mean the animals are treated well.
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose I will try to make this short as I have said enough....
Many yrs ago I was friendly with a woman who owned a pet shop in Camp Springs, MD. She was a very nice, ordered special food (ANF) for me..any product I could not find.
She wanted to sell my pups from her shop, but that did not sit right with me.
She asked me once if I would like to keep her company on a short trip to pick up some puppies from a couple breeders who supplied the shop. YOU BET!!!
The first place was just across the Maryland line in a small PA town. It was a rural area and we pulled up to a place that had three single wide mobile homes on it. The breeder was outside and openned the door of the first trailer...out came about 30 Yorkies, Pom, and Chi's so matted an dirty I barely knew what they were. Inside it was Africa hot..no AC..pens of screaming, barking pups..begging for a breath of fresh air. I could not put one foot in front of the other..I might as well have been in a concentration camp..total shock. The other 2 trailers were the same..there had to be 100 toy dogs in 3 small trailers...the owner did not even live onthe property!
The smell, the filith, the heat was awful..the urine burned my eyes so bad.
My friend crated up a couple dozen pups and we left.
The next place was worse...I had to go back to the van. She saw how upset I was..her response..."Welcome to the world of dog breeders!"
NO....I am a dog breeder, these people are uncaring, money hungry monsters.
I tried to stay friends with her, but everytime I went into that shop I started to cry.
There are times in life we must take a stand and b counted..count me Anti Pet shop. |